Teddy Bridgewater using Madden 25 to learn playbook

[BJNT]

Not surprising. It was said that he used NCAA Football for the same thing back when he was at Louisville.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by XXstormmXX

You are correct, EA doesn't custom make each playbook, they just remove formations that aren't used by each team. So all the playbooks are the same plays but different formations and sets.

Hate to go against the majority here, but that is how it is in real life for the most part.

[bigbob]

Let's be real for a minute.

If EA would add even a third of a real NFL playbook, people would be bitching that there's too many plays to go through.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbob

Let's be real for a minute. If EA would add even a third of a real NFL playbook, people would be bitching that there's too many plays to go through.

That is actually false. While a typical NFL playbook is quite thick, that is due to a good portion of the playbook covering such things as terminology and blocking schemes.

As far as actual plays go Madden has it relatively accurate. Where it is weak is that it is static. A real playbook evolves and changes over the course of a season, sometimes even on a week to week basis.

When it comes to actual passing plays there are a limited number of route combinations a team can use. The truth is that most of the NFL teams are running the same plays. The differences lie in tendencies and personnel groupings.

Your suggestion that a realistic NFL playbook would be too much for a Madden gamer is not true. So long as they understand how to use the concepts and a good understanding of the strategy behind it.

[bigbob]

Quote: Originally Posted by ggsimmonds

That is actually false. While a typical NFL playbook is quite thick, that is due to a good portion of the playbook covering such things as terminology and blocking schemes. As far as actual plays go Madden has it relatively accurate. Where it is weak is that it is static. A real playbook evolves and changes over the course of a season, sometimes even on a week to week basis. When it comes to actual passing plays there are a limited number of route combinations a team can use. The truth is that most of the NFL teams are running the same plays. The differences lie in tendencies and personnel groupings. Your suggestion that a realistic NFL playbook would be too much for a Madden gamer is not true. So long as they understand how to use the concepts and a good understanding of the strategy behind it.

False.

The amount of different route combinations a team can run is by far more than a casual Madden fan can handle.

A casual Madden fan runs roughly 4 plays and that's pushing it.

I assume you don't spend a lot of time around casual players. Anything more than what is in the game now, they'd put it down and never pick it up again.

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[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbob

False. The amount of different route combinations a team can run is by far more than a casual Madden fan can handle. A casual Madden fan runs roughly 4 plays and that's pushing it. I assume you don't spend a lot of time around casual players. Anything more than what is in the game now, they'd put it down and never pick it up again. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

If they only use four plays as you say why would they care if there were more plays in the playbook?

Wouldn't they continue to use just four plays which makes the rest of the playbook irrelevant?

[The JareBear]

Madden playbooks don't scratch the surface of real life playbooks.

[DCEBB2001]

This is complete crap.

You cannot learn a playbook from Madden. Even the freaking playcall system is incorrect for calling out plays. Do you really think teams call "Packer Cross" in the huddle?

Take the West Coast Offense, which is used by several teams, for example. When calling a play in the West Coast Offense, you have to actually communicate the following:

1. The formation with any and all possible motions.
2. The play.
3. The blocking scheme.
4. The pass routes.
5. The snap count.

What the QB actually says to relay numbers 1-5 above is:

1. Shifts
2. Formation
3. Formation Adjustments
4. Motion
5. Play Number
6. Play Term (blocking scheme)
7. Snap Count
8. Ready, Break!

This can be as complicated as this when you put it all together, and believe it or not, it actually describes everything going on with this play. If you can hear this play and actually draw it on a whiteboard, then you know the offense...like how Mike McCarthy calls it:

East Right Flop, V-Right Outside, Y-Left, Fake 396 Bag, V-Hinge, Z-Pop, On Two, On Two.

OR, even in a simplified WCO used by a college team like USC's Norm Chow's offense from back in the day where the routes are called weak to strong side:

Zoom, Houston-Right, 866, H-Post, Queen, On Blue, On Blue.

OR, Bill Walsh's way of calling plays:

Solo Left Tear, Fake 16 Slash, T-Swing, Y-Tickle.


Either way, the verbiage is what really matters, not the play design. The play design is left to the coaches to create. The play calling is what the QBs REALLY need to focus on to accurately call the play that the coaches want the offense to run. If you really think that Madden can help a QB do that, then you need to learn the game of football a bit better.