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Old 07-08-2014, 01:02 PM   #9
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Considering they eliminated QB scrambles from non athletic QBs this year, I thought this was a nice addition. Like Rex said its like what Bama did to Manziel. It's real technique not gimmicky.
Nah I don't believe it's a gimmick, but I think we need to see it field tested in action to really see how it works.

I just feel like it's so hard to add these realistic elements on top of a game that wasn't built on realism. Seems like they're always going to be fighting against themselves no matter how hard they try until most of this stuff is gutted.

This team inherited a ****ed up house. I guess it's like building things on top of the foundation, while also trying to replace the foundation. A serious challenge.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:06 PM   #10
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BezO true but the stunts don't even work.. Most stunts take WAY to long or the stunts them self don't work..even something as simple as an outside pass rush line "call" both ends take this extreme "turn" insist of rushing up field..completely takes them out of the play causing huge rush lanes..the ends/OLB's normally never get proper outside leverage/outside shoulder to get under the Tackle..however if this did happen there is almost never any true push from the DT..so I guess taking both away is the answer?


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Old 07-08-2014, 01:23 PM   #11
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BezO true but the stunts don't even work.. Most stunts take WAY to long or the stunts them self don't work..even something as simple as an outside pass rush line "call" both ends take this extreme "turn" insist of rushing up field..completely takes them out of the play causing huge rush lanes..the ends/OLB's normally never get proper outside leverage/outside shoulder to get under the Tackle..however if this did happen there is almost never any true push from the DT..so I guess taking both away is the answer?


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Yeah the stunts are absolutely useless. The DL guys just run into each other, or the OL warps around and picks up the block anyway. And like you said, they take forever.

I'm interested to see how these QB Contain rushes work. I saw plenty of rolling out and throwing in the videos posted in the Video Thread, but maybe those guys weren't making the adjustment. It would be nice if Shopmaster provided video of these things playing out in-game instead of just talking about them.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:36 PM   #12
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Yeah the stunts are absolutely useless. The DL guys just run into each other, or the OL warps around and picks up the block anyway. And like you said, they take forever.

I'm interested to see how these QB Contain rushes work. I saw plenty of rolling out and throwing in the videos posted in the Video Thread, but maybe those guys weren't making the adjustment. It would be nice if Shopmaster provided video of these things playing out in-game instead of just talking about them.
Was that in 25 that they were useless or are you seeing that in the videos from 15?
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Was that in 25 that they were useless or are you seeing that in the videos from 15?
They've been useless in every Madden. I haven't paid attention to it in the M15 videos, however. But since the running animations and explosion off the line hasn't been changed for CPU DL, I doubt it's different.
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Echoing the "sounds nice but I want to see it" sentiment.
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Was that in 25 that they were useless or are you seeing that in the videos from 15?

Let's for the sake of this conversation say stunts are at very least somewhat working...it makes no sense to have only certain plays assigned certain stunts..now back to what u ask..watch the line play..most if not all videos posted so far are only linemen rush heads up ie forward..I have yet to see any ends or OLB's set the edge ..the speed of speed rushers doesn't come into effect until they disengage that "first" block..edge rushers don't beat ( that quick first two steps) anyone to the outside shoulder..cause a true pocket to form..I had hope with the "jump button" this would happen but it "appears" this only allows the user who "jumped" the snap the ability to use a pass rush move at better success..think Bruce Irvin his first year..he just "blew" by Tackles to edge to get his sacks..once teams began to "chip" him to slow him down and allow the tackle to get square with him.. His sack totals went to nothing..hence the position change (or at least my belief for position change)..he had no counter, no pass rush moves to help assist his up field speed rush


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I think that we are just all to the point where we hear a lot of talk but we want to see it in action. Hopefully at least 80% of the good things they say actually works in the game.


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