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Old 07-08-2014, 03:32 PM   #25
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Here's the part I read about pull blocks. I know Clint is working very hard for us.



New offensive blocking schemes and AI that further represents blocking in the NFL. Introduction of kick-out blocks on pulling linemen can devastate defenders and open up huge running lanes. Pull blocking in general is overhauled to allow for more realistic defender targeting and appropriate type of block.

JP and that appears to be true but only for run blocking and even then it's only better not good..pass blocking in it's current form..not right not close to right..


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Old 07-08-2014, 03:37 PM   #26
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Not cutting it. All the interaction is stationary... patty cake until someone wins. It seems the exception is that the user can steer blockers, but that's not enough.

Watch some Youtube clips. Look at all the engaged players flow towards outside runs. Despite being engaged, defenders can still do their job... maintain outside leverage, contain, fill gaps, etc.

I won't go list all the areas that are affected. Point is that one of the biggest problems on defense, regarding animations & AI, is that engaged players have no mobility. It kills the spacing & timing of the game. Too easy to run outside. Too easy to scramble outside. Too easy to step into the pocket (if you needed to). Everything is based on disengaging. Even the defensive moves, you have to engage 1st, when a pass rusher's goal is to NOT engage.

Because all of this is missing, they have to balance the game with band-aids. It has to be easier to disengage because you can't do your job unless you do. We have to hot route contain assignments. Because DBs can't ride gunners, punt returns are nerfed. So on & so on.

There are missing fundamentals of football that only a few here talk about. They are not being addressed. So where you see the game improving, I see the foundation of the problems being ignored.
I can't comprehend how you would know this stuff and Clint wouldn't address it. I mean he's a former nfl lineman he knows this stuff in his sleep better than anyone here.
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See this video is what kind of freaks me out. He's talking about how his tester is some guy who plays in the tourney scene and that's the kind of feedback they get. That bothers me man. That's cool and all but are any of these GCs or testers guys who play offline and approach EA from the perspective of someone looking for a rich franchise experience against the CPU?

I mean I'm glad QB contain is finally going to work as it should.
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Here's the part I read about pull blocks. I know Clint is working very hard for us.

New offensive blocking schemes and AI that further represents blocking in the NFL. Introduction of kick-out blocks on pulling linemen can devastate defenders and open up huge running lanes. Pull blocking in general is overhauled to allow for more realistic defender targeting and appropriate type of block.
Will d-linemen "jump in the hip pocket" of pulling linemen? Can interior d-linemen get push? Will LBs read their keys? Does the defense have any of the real life tools to defend pull plays?

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I can't comprehend how you would know this stuff and Clint wouldn't address it. I mean he's a former nfl lineman he knows this stuff in his sleep better than anyone here.
Unfortunately for us, Clint doesn't code the game. I'll be as optimistic as you when they annouce the hiring of the programming equivelent of Clint.
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See this video is what kind of freaks me out. He's talking about how his tester is some guy who plays in the tourney scene and that's the kind of feedback they get. That bothers me man. That's cool and all but are any of these GCs or testers guys who play offline and approach EA from the perspective of someone looking for a rich franchise experience against the CPU?

I mean I'm glad QB contain is finally going to work as it should.
I wonder if this guy is just one of the testers. It does seem like a lot more of the actual foundation needs fixed but, I'm sure they want to spend more time stopping online exploit's since this is probably their most used part of the game. Between online ranked and MUT games I'm sure that's a huge number. Maybe they think sim players already police themselves.

I really think some of these serious online and tourney players want exploit's gone too from what I hear.
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See this video is what kind of freaks me out. He's talking about how his tester is some guy who plays in the tourney scene and that's the kind of feedback they get. That bothers me man. That's cool and all but are any of these GCs or testers guys who play offline and approach EA from the perspective of someone looking for a rich franchise experience against the CPU?

I mean I'm glad QB contain is finally going to work as it should.
The fact that they are still attacking problems in strict regard to balancing & cheesing lets me know we have some years to go.

When they hire LBzRule and allow him to impact the game enough to mention his name in that way, I'll be impressed.
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Will d-linemen "jump in the hip pocket" of pulling linemen? Can interior d-linemen get push? Will LBs read their keys? Does the defense have any of the real life tools to defend pull plays?

Unfortunately for us, Clint doesn't code the game. I'll be as optimistic as you when they annouce the hiring of the programming equivelent of Clint.
Could you post some videos of this stuff in action from real life footage? I'm not this football smart lol
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