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Old 08-01-2014, 09:38 AM   #377
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That thankfully went away. It was a bad idea. No one was asking for "Beyond" they just wanted Broadcast. 6 years later, they're still struggling just to meet that.
This is just the beginning, Brian said he ultimately wants to see the nfl start to copy off of Madden's presentation. Obviously we are nowhere near that now, but it gives you an idea of his vision for presentation.
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The jumbotrons are definitely dynamic, there's 22 different triggers. They said some of them like Heinz field are team specific, they will show the ketchup bottles pour in the red zone. There are all kinds of multi player celebrations going on in this video, some are very subtle, at one point two of the chiefs do a chest bump after a completion to Baldwin I believe.
I understand about other moments where other players interact with one another in celebration. But, just to point out one instance where the contextual celebrations didn't show up. Was on a big stop on the goal line and the player seems to act like it was just a standard tackle. maybe they will see some of these and correct them. If not, it was just ONE instance I'm sure there are more times when the AI realizes it made a good play.

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Old 08-01-2014, 09:45 AM   #379
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Here's a link to just the halftime show
http://youtu.be/aPeZ1ziWNFY
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Brian said he ultimately wants to see the nfl start to copy off of Madden's presentation.


I'm sorry,but I found this to be absolutely hilarious.
Instead of making such a comment,they NEED to be worried about getting their presentation on par with what's on TV now.
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Forgive me if someone has already mentioned it earlier in the thread since I havent read the whole thing. But, looks like during a change in quarters they will be showing highlights from the previous quarter that just ended and in 25 it just changes to the next quarter with no highlights at all.

Also something I noticed and I think someone said the Jumbo Tron graphic doesnt change, but I noticed it go from just saying Jaguars all the time to Red Zone on the Gerhart attempt and then Touchdown. During the Gerhart TD I also noticed when the LB stopped him from scoring in the redzone he just gets up and walks back to the huddle. I am pretty sure if you stop the other team from scoring at anytime during the game not only will you get up and celebrate, other teammates are going to come and mob you, at least a couple should show up and do something.
Is this the goal line stoppage that you are referring to? If so, I agree -- there should be some type of defensive celebration. Secondly, there wasn't really any TD group celebration of any sort when the TD was finally scored.

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The jumbotrons are definitely dynamic, there's 22 different triggers. They said some of them like Heinz field are team specific, they will show the ketchup bottles pour in the red zone. There are all kinds of multi player celebrations going on in this video, some are very subtle, at one point two of the chiefs do a chest bump after a completion to Baldwin I believe.
I honestly like how you bring up good points that are supportive of team Madden, and continually find Madden 15 stuff on the internet. It's like a "yin and yang" relationship with those who have a more critical eye.

But it can be a tad annoying when you either deflect or don't address what the user brings up. You have like a politician's way of approaching things. User leathrneck34 mentions that there was no defensive celebration when Toby Gerhart was stopped at the 1 yard line. Instead of addressing it, you skirt around that particular sequence to reference a completely different sequence (Chief's two player chest bump). Yes, we know defensive and offensive celebrations are present. But the problem is context, and how frequently? Does the celebrations or lack thereof fit the context? When a celebration is suppose to happen, does it? Are the types of celebrations appropriate to the situation?


Lesean McCoy's magnificent touchdown run straight into a celebration was absolutely stellar sequence of events. This was something that completely jumped out at me as authentically replicated. The celebration context was great. Where was the defensive contextual celebration when Gerhart was stopped at the goaline? Where was the offensive contextual celebration when Gerhart finally scored the touchdown?

Side Note: But strange that the commentator (was it AJ?) said McCoy called over his Tight-end to come celebrate? Um ... I didn't see where McCoy "called" over his teammate for a celebration. More importantly in real life, teammates naturally go congratulate their teammates... you don't really "call" over teammates to celebrate.

@38:52 mark - Lesean McCoy's Touchdown and proper solo contextual celebration
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Lol that's not even the halftime show, it's a presentation feature

Good god. That looks fantastic!! It feels like you're really on the court. Player models look good. Real player voices commenting on the game. Wow. Amazing. Madden will NEVER reach this level. Lol.
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I agree with those that were saying the replays were too short and zoomed in. The starting and ending EA screen wipes added together take as much time as the actual replay. The first showing of a replay should always be from regular broadcast camera distance, then the second replay a closer look. it does not look good the way it is right now, especially the ones that lock onto the football -- the NFL does not currently employ robotic cameras that lock onto a chip in the football to keep it in the exact center of the screen at all times.

I miss the overhead view of the stadiums, the chrome fly in does nothing for me..once again, this is not something I am going to see on sundays watching the NFL (although I wouldnt put it past fox, please EA stop giving them ideas). I loved the overhead stadium shots in last gen, and was excited to see them with the new detail of next gen..never got tired of them oh well. its all about the close ups in next gen I guess. I skipped madded 25, were they still in then?

The coach reactions are also too redundant. If you are going to cut to the coach after every poor play, then you better have a pool of 100 reactions to randomly pull from -- not show the same look-up-to-the-sky-in-disgust animation over and over. I love the no more cut scenes mantra, but they need way more reactions to really make it look good and keep it fresh and not ruin the immersion. too many players performing the exact same post play reactions at the exact same time. In fact in the one replay they were looking at, there was another Steeler right behind him doing the exact same animation perfectly in tandem. looks comical. again, more variety for immersion sake.

I do like a lot of stuff though, especially the corners and WR's going up to play the ball. Defensive cameras are a godsend, I hope I don't have to set it every play and it stays on whatever you chose last play? saw some 2-3 man tackles which always make me happy (need waaaay more of these please!).
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Is this the goal line stoppage that you are referring to? If so, I agree -- there should be some type of defensive celebration. Secondly, there wasn't really any TD group celebration of any sort when the TD was finally scored.

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I honestly like how you bring up good points that are supportive of team Madden, and continually find Madden 15 stuff on the internet. It's like a "yin and yang" relationship with those who have a more critical eye.

But it can be a tad annoying when you either deflect or don't address what the user brings up. You have like a politician's way of approaching things. User leathrneck34 mentions that there was no defensive celebration when Toby Gerhart was stopped at the 1 yard line. Instead of addressing it, you skirt around that particular sequence to reference a completely different sequence (Chief's two player chest bump). Yes, we know defensive and offensive celebrations are present. But the problem is context, and how frequently? Does the celebrations or lack thereof fit the context? When a celebration is suppose to happen, does it? Are the types of celebrations appropriate to the situation?


Lesean McCoy's magnificent touchdown run straight into a celebration was absolutely stellar sequence of events. This was something that completely jumped out at me as authentically replicated. The celebration context was great. Where was the defensive contextual celebration when Gerhart was stopped at the goaline? Where was the offensive contextual celebration when Gerhart finally scored the touchdown?

Side Note: But strange that the commentator (was it AJ?) said McCoy called over his Tight-end to come celebrate? Um ... I didn't see where McCoy "called" over his teammate for a celebration. More importantly in real life, teammates naturally go congratulate their teammates... you don't really "call" over teammates to celebrate.

@38:52 mark - Lesean McCoy's Touchdown and proper solo contextual celebration
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I'm working so I don't have time to respond in detail. To answer your question about Gerhart, aj said different players have different celebration styles and that was supposed to be more reserved, ala Barry Sanders.
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