Resigning Players, WTH am I doing wrong?

[AeRo1226]

Ok so this year Madden 15 has been everything I have hoped for. Graphics are better, games are harder (All-Madden settings, not sure how people are complaining on All-pro settings because its too easy), and connected franchise mode is great except for one thing....


I cant resign any players at all. Idk if its broke, but I don't get it.


So predictability...that's supposed to make the players pretty much keep their word when they give you a "desired contract" correct? And I know this year more things matter like the scheme, location, bonus, years, etc...


Well heres my example. Andrew Luck is in his last year. I have my coach with the "resign-bonus", Luck is predictable, he wants a contract of 120 Mil over 6 years. I have even changed my scheme to match his.


I have offered him a contact of 121 mil over 6 years, 126 mil over 6 years, a 135 mil over 6 years, and finally I then offered him something like 145 mil over 6 years, which he finally accepted. Wth is up with that? it takes 24 million OVER what he wants just for him to accept? And this is happening with EVERY player. Is it broken?


Teams in the NFL re-sign their players all the time. This is why there aren't many trades. I don't see how it takes this much just to get the guy I want to stay. Right now I'd have a easier time signing them in FA. Please give me any advice for making this easier.

[Scyp]

Resigning Players, WTH am I doing wrong?

Well just so you don't feel bad. I had resigned my created player with pretty much all 99 stats for 145m over 6 years.


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[muelly]

Re: Resigning Players, WTH am I doing wrong?

Ok so this year Madden 15 has been everything I have hoped for. Graphics are better, games are harder (All-Madden settings, not sure how people are complaining on All-pro settings because its too easy), and connected franchise mode is great except for one thing....


I cant resign any players at all. Idk if its broke, but I don't get it.


So predictability...that's supposed to make the players pretty much keep their word when they give you a "desired contract" correct? And I know this year more things matter like the scheme, location, bonus, years, etc...


Well heres my example. Andrew Luck is in his last year. I have my coach with the "resign-bonus", Luck is predictable, he wants a contract of 120 Mil over 6 years. I have even changed my scheme to match his.


I have offered him a contact of 121 mil over 6 years, 126 mil over 6 years, a 135 mil over 6 years, and finally I then offered him something like 145 mil over 6 years, which he finally accepted. Wth is up with that? it takes 24 million OVER what he wants just for him to accept? And this is happening with EVERY player. Is it broken?


Teams in the NFL re-sign their players all the time. This is why there aren't many trades. I don't see how it takes this much just to get the guy I want to stay. Right now I'd have a easier time signing them in FA. Please give me any advice for making this easier.

Qb market pry pay him more.


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[AeRo1226]

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Well just so you don't feel bad. I had resigned my created player with pretty much all 99 stats for 145m over 6 years.


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That's not the point. My point is, with predictability and resign trait, plus my scheme matching, the length of contract matching and the money matching, why the hell is it so hard to re-sign someone. I'm matching THEIR desired contract. Its now like i'm low-balling them.

[jatiger13]

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How large was the bonus money?
I noticed that I have an easier time if I raise the bonus money.
For example, if you offer him 16 million and 4 million bonus, and he turns it down.... try to offer 13 million and 7 million bonus, and he might accept it. Its still 20 million per season.
I've had success when doing this with players. I don't offer more per year, I just give a higher percentage in bonus money.

[Number999]

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That's not the point. My point is, with predictability and resign trait, plus my scheme matching, the length of contract matching and the money matching, why the hell is it so hard to re-sign someone. I'm matching THEIR desired contract. Its now like i'm low-balling them.

The desired contract has always been bad in the recent Madden games, unless they're a scrub, you have to overpay a little bit which makes 0 sense. (it'd make more sense if he wanted 6-years/145M to start with and you negotiated down, not going up), slightly flawed system but you get use to it.

[AeRo1226]

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I agree, we should be getting a REAL amount that they want and then negotiate down.


So I guess its safe to say that the "predictability" trait is useless then? because they are still giving fake figures.


I have to save and reload my game all he time when negotiating because they give me a fake "desired amount" and then after negotiating up eventually it says "time to test free agency!!!"


So dumb if you ask me. I've never seen a sports game so flawed in negotiating salaries. Even NBA and NHL have better negotiating tables.

[JHTJ]

Re: Resigning Players, WTH am I doing wrong?

How large was the bonus money?
I noticed that I have an easier time if I raise the bonus money.
For example, if you offer him 16 million and 4 million bonus, and he turns it down.... try to offer 13 million and 7 million bonus, and he might accept it. Its still 20 million per season.
I've had success when doing this with players. I don't offer more per year, I just give a higher percentage in bonus money.

This is exactly right. Up the guaranteed amount. I just resigned Jarvis Laundry (92) to a 6 year 42 million dollar deal with 24 of it guaranteed. He asked for a 6 year 52 million dollar contract. I'm fine upping the bonus money with the understanding that hes only going to get better. The beauty of higher guarantees is they're evenly distributed over the course of the contract. Meaning there's less inflation on the back end, so the contract is easier to manage. The downside is your handcuffed to this player because the cap hit would cripple your franchise if you parted ways early.

[AeRo1226]

Re: Resigning Players, WTH am I doing wrong?

This is exactly right. Up the guaranteed amount. I just resigned Jarvis Laundry (92) to a 6 year 42 million dollar deal with 24 of it guaranteed. He asked for a 6 year 52 million dollar contract. I'm fine upping the bonus money with the understanding that hes only going to get better. The beauty of higher guarantees is they're evenly distributed over the course of the contract. Meaning there's less inflation on the back end, so the contract is easier to manage. The downside is your handcuffed to this player because the cap hit would cripple your franchise if you parted ways early.

This is a good idea, and I have no problem upping the bonus money on players who I have no problems keeping.


But you can only do this so often. I'm playing the Texans and I don't bring in enough money to give amazing bonuses to every player. Even just 2 would take all my money. In my A. Luck situation, i'm at 30 million dollars currently and he wants a deal of 120 mil. I'd give all my bonus money and still have to raise the salary just to get this guy to sign. When there's no reason he wouldn't want to sign in real life. Granted, i'm still only 2 weeks in so ill have more money towards the end of the season, but still.

[dpower15]

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This is exactly right. Up the guaranteed amount. I just resigned Jarvis Laundry (92) to a 6 year 42 million dollar deal with 24 of it guaranteed. He asked for a 6 year 52 million dollar contract. I'm fine upping the bonus money with the understanding that hes only going to get better. The beauty of higher guarantees is they're evenly distributed over the course of the contract. Meaning there's less inflation on the back end, so the contract is easier to manage. The downside is your handcuffed to this player because the cap hit would cripple your franchise if you parted ways early.

That's a great strategy for coach mode CFM, but raising bonus in owner mode will quickly screw yourself over. Owner mode is flawed right now and pays the total bonus up front (so if 6 yr deal with $4m bonus per year, it takes $24m funds).

[NickPants]

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Great information everybody. I learned a lot reading this topic thanks !

[PSimp21]

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Thanks for the information. I am about half way done with my first year, interested on how this will play out when its time to resign.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I agree, we should be getting a REAL amount that they want and then negotiate down.


So I guess its safe to say that the "predictability" trait is useless then? because they are still giving fake figures.


I have to save and reload my game all he time when negotiating because they give me a fake "desired amount" and then after negotiating up eventually it says "time to test free agency!!!"


So dumb if you ask me. I've never seen a sports game so flawed in negotiating salaries. Even NBA and NHL have better negotiating tables.

The irony is that Head Coach, which Looman was the main person behind, had the best contract negotiation system of any sports game I've played. I'll never understand why they couldn't implement that system into madden.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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That's a great strategy for coach mode CFM, but raising bonus in owner mode will quickly screw yourself over. Owner mode is flawed right now and pays the total bonus up front (so if 6 yr deal with $4m bonus per year, it takes $24m funds).

I keep reading this, but in the only offseason I've gone through so far, I didn't lose ANY money when signing guys. It's very strange. It's like I need to have the funds to offer the contract, but it doesn't actually take it from my funds.

I still can't even offer a contract to Gerald McCoy though. I have like $7 million in funds right now and he wants 4 years 40 million. That's very frustrating to me.

[Sheba2011]

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Ok so this year Madden 15 has been everything I have hoped for. Graphics are better, games are harder (All-Madden settings, not sure how people are complaining on All-pro settings because its too easy), and connected franchise mode is great except for one thing....


I cant resign any players at all. Idk if its broke, but I don't get it.


So predictability...that's supposed to make the players pretty much keep their word when they give you a "desired contract" correct? And I know this year more things matter like the scheme, location, bonus, years, etc...


Well heres my example. Andrew Luck is in his last year. I have my coach with the "resign-bonus", Luck is predictable, he wants a contract of 120 Mil over 6 years. I have even changed my scheme to match his.


I have offered him a contact of 121 mil over 6 years, 126 mil over 6 years, a 135 mil over 6 years, and finally I then offered him something like 145 mil over 6 years, which he finally accepted. Wth is up with that? it takes 24 million OVER what he wants just for him to accept? And this is happening with EVERY player. Is it broken?


Teams in the NFL re-sign their players all the time. This is why there aren't many trades. I don't see how it takes this much just to get the guy I want to stay. Right now I'd have a easier time signing them in FA. Please give me any advice for making this easier.

It might be that's not what the player wants (despite what the screen says), that's just a starting point based on other QB contracts. What he really wanted was 6 years, 150 million but would accept within range of that. Also was this in free agency or during the season? If it was in free agency he could have had higher offers. I haven't really messed with resigning yet.