Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

[BIGBLU422]

When M15 came out one of the features EA touted is playing vs. the CPU would be more like playing against another user than any previous Madden. I think they "accomplished" this by data mining M15 user play calling like crazy and integrating these strategies with their own.

I remember being very impressed the first few weeks after release with the CPU AI and specifically their play calling. About a month in I remember seeing the often complained about Verts patterns called on 3rd & short on the reg along with some other unrealistic tendencies. This could be explained by user play calling in online games with unrealistic structures and 4th down rules (In many leagues 3rd & 1 is a great time to take a shot down the field bc people can pickup an almost automatic 1st on 4th and short.) If so it should be an easy fix for EA to reweigh the distributions on USER play calls vs their original game plan for proper balancing.

I automatically DL CPU Playcall "Community_Suggestions" every Thursday/Friday along with the Roster update. The "Community_Suggestions" file can be found in "Load/Delete Files" from the main screen.

Does anyone have further insight about the topic or deleted the Community Suggestions file and noticed a significant difference?

[Franchise408]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

That's why I'm happy to he part of a league that strives for realism. No 4th down attempts unless you're in opponent territory. 3rd down isn't a "take a shot" down.

[majesty95]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

That's why I'm happy to he part of a league that strives for realism. No 4th down attempts unless you're in opponent territory. 3rd down isn't a "take a shot" down.

Why wouldn't 3rd down be a "take a shot" down? If you are 3rd and 1, it seems perfectly reasonable that a team would try to catch you off guard with a shot down the field.

So, does the community suggestions file actually impact CPU play calling? I'd like to hear more about this...

[isthunidal]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

I'm happy to he part of a league that strives for realism.

[canes21]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

Why wouldn't 3rd down be a "take a shot" down? If you are 3rd and 1, it seems perfectly reasonable that a team would try to catch you off guard with a shot down the field.

So, does the community suggestions file actually impact CPU play calling? I'd like to hear more about this...

I agree with this. Not every time, but when I get a feel for a defense's tendencies and no they sell out more often on 3rd and short, I definitely will take a shot.

[BIGBLU422]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

I don't have a problem taking shots on 3rd & 1. The CPU is consistently overaggressive and unimaginative in these spots.

[capa]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

Does anyone know if Community Suggestions impact CPU play calling?

[Franchise408]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

Why wouldn't 3rd down be a "take a shot" down? If you are 3rd and 1, it seems perfectly reasonable that a team would try to catch you off guard with a shot down the field.

So, does the community suggestions file actually impact CPU play calling? I'd like to hear more about this...

It's not that shots aren't taken, but that they are strategic and not just done on a whim, since on 4th down you'll actually have to punt if you're still in your own territory.

[BIGBLU422]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

Bump,

These started coming out after the week 2 roster update if I remember correctly, after a number of online games had been played. It impacts user play suggestions only or bother user and CPU game plans.

I think the db's are separate and impact both. Initially the suggestions were _ team runs _ defense x% of the time, this play averages y yards vs this defense.. Now suggestions seem much more detailed aka in a specific CFM & maybe playbook "you've run this play X times and avg'd Y YPA. EA made a point to say games vs CPU would be more like playing a user than ever. Is more direct way to put that in motion after seeing the game evolve than this?

[majesty95]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

I still don't understand this very well. In a league when you have 20-30 users, would this apply to the CPU?

[BIGBLU422]

Re: Theory/Question RE: CPU Play Calling

I still don't understand this very well. In a league when you have 20-30 users, would this apply to the CPU?

No it is for games where user plays cpu using AI, not Human Intelligence to select plays