Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

[4thQtrStre5S]

I am curious if anyone has a full list of how the depth charts correlate to on field formation sets?

I have the following Nickle formations done, hoping there is a list some place that is available so I will save some time:

3-4 playbook

NICKLE:2-4-5
CB1
LOLB1
LE1
RE1
SS1
MLB1
MLB2
ROLB1
FS1
CB3
CB2

NICKLE: 3-3-5
CB1
LE1
DT1
RE1
LOLB1
MLB1
ROLB1
CB3
SS1
CB2
FS1

NICKLE: 1-5-5
LOLB1
LOLB2
DT1
ROLB1
ROLB2
MLB1
CB1
SS1
FS1
CB3
CB2

I found the following Special Teams list, but haven't checked its accuracy yet:

-Punt Return: PR, #2/3/4 CBs, #2FS, #1/2 SSs, #1 ROLB, #2 OLBs, #2 MLB


-Punt Block: PR, #2/3 CBs, #1 ROLB, #1/2 FSs, #2 SS, #2 OLBs, #1/2 MLBs


-Punt Return Safe: PR, #2/3/4 CBs, #1 ROLB, #2 OLBs, #2 MLB, #1/2 SSs, #2 FS


-Punt: P, #3/4 CBs, #1 FB, #2 FS, #2 SS, LS, #2 OLBs, #1/2 MLBs


-Punt Protect: P, LS, #1/2 FBs, #1 OLBs, #1 MLB, #2 SS, #2 OLBs, #2 MLB


-Kickoff Coverage: K, #4/5 WRs, #3/4 CBs, #2 SS, #2 FS, #2 OLBs, #2 MLB, #2 TE


-Kick Return/KR2: #1/2 KR, #1 FB, #1/2/3 TE, #2 CB, #2 MLB, #2 OLBs, #2 SS


-Onside: K, #2/3/4 CBs, #2 FS, #2 SS, #3/4/5 WRs, #2 TE, #2 OLB(Not Sure R/L)


-Onside Recover: #1/2KR, #1/2/3 HBs, #1/2/3 WRs, #1 FB, #1/2 TE


-FG Block: #1/2 DTs, #1 LE, #1 RE, #1 SS, #3/4 CBs, #1 ROLB, #1MLB, #2 OLB(Not Sure R/L), PR


-FG/Extra Point: K, #2QB, LS, #1Gs/Ts, #2 HB, #1/2/3 TEs

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

Thanks. Appreciate the legwork you put in on this.

[aholbert32]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

This helps explain why special teams are a mess and why we need to be given formation subs so we can prevent starters from playing special teams.

Why would my #1 OLB play special teams? In what world is that right?

[Hooe]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

I'd like to see the non-kicking portions of special teams get some attention in the general case.

Let us assign - in whatever capacity - our kick and punt coverage teams, our onside kick hands team, our kick / punt return units, our field goal blockers... etc. etc. Making long snappers and place holders something more than an afterthought and having consequences for deploying guys who can't long snap or place hold would also be welcome.

With respect to substitutions across the game, I want the game to allow for the specialization that football has moved towards and emphasized over the years. Formation subs is a starting point and would be extremely welcome absent any other changes, but in my opinion the scrapping of depth charts and the introduction of personnel packages ultimately is the best way to go.

[elchristo]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

i asked for this last year on madden's facebook page and ea sports said it was a great idea

but it wasent in last years game, like why cant i assign a holder. Im a raiders fan so King the punter is our holder, yet i always get stuck with mcgloin there.

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

This helps explain why special teams are a mess and why we need to be given formation subs so we can prevent starters from playing special teams.

Why would my #1 OLB play special teams? In what world is that right?

In Cincinnati... but then again, every loopy thing makes sense in cincinnati.

About 7-8 years ago they had Ahmad Brooks, then their starting middle linebacker, covering kicks. Needless to say, it didn't end well. He tore the groin clean off the bone on a special teams play and never played for them again.

[Hooe]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

In Cincinnati.

About 7-8 years ago they had Ahmad Brooks, then their starting middle linebacker, covering kicks. Needless to say, it didn't end well. He tore the groin clean off the bone on a special teams play and never played for them again.

Speaking of Ahmad Brooks and special teams - Brooks was also (briefly) a kickoff returner while in college at UVA. While also starting at 3-4 inside linebacker.

At the time he was a special athlete who couldn't keep his head on straight.

[mvb34]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

This helps explain why special teams are a mess and why we need to be given formation subs so we can prevent starters from playing special teams.

Why would my #1 OLB play special teams? In what world is that right?

Starters do play special teams... because of the gameday 45 man roster...

[aholbert32]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

Starters do play special teams... because of the gameday 45 man roster...

Often? I'm looking at the Cowboys special teams last year and the only starters who played special teams regularly were Wilcox and Church (both safeties). Church played a lot because of injuries.

In Madden if your team runs a 3-4, one of your starting cornerbacks, starting strong safety, starting right outside linebacker and one of your middle LBs is starting on special teams on punt returns.

That seems excessive.

[Potatoes002]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

I also hate how the #2 MLB is treated like a backup, even in a 3-4. An expanded depth chart would do wonders.

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

Speaking of Ahmad Brooks and special teams - Brooks was also (briefly) a kickoff returner while in college at UVA. While also starting at 3-4 inside linebacker.

At the time he was a special athlete who couldn't keep his head on straight.

Ah-ha, I never knew this. Makes sense though. I used to love watching those UVA Al Groh teams from the early-mid 2000's and all those athletes they kept churning through the program.

I was stoked when Cincy grabbed Brooks in the supplemental draft; that was going to be my guy. Figures he wound up blossoming in another uniform.

[msdm27]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

Often? I'm looking at the Cowboys special teams last year and the only starters who played special teams regularly were Wilcox and Church (both safeties). Church played a lot because of injuries.

In Madden if your team runs a 3-4, one of your starting cornerbacks, starting strong safety, starting right outside linebacker and one of your middle LBs is starting on special teams on punt returns.

That seems excessive.

It really depends on the team.

Devin McCourty and Jamie Collins are 1st team special teamers for the Patriots, for example.

But needless to say, how it happens in Madden is quite excessive and doesn't really have any logic behind it.

[Ueauvan]

Re: Depth Chart to Formation Correlation List?

thought 46 dressed with an option of 47 is the 47th was the 3rd qb?

the formations that are a pain are 1-4-6 2-3-6 etc where sometimes i want to put my best zone guys over the top, likely to be fs/ss/fs2 for me however the game puts ss2 in or some such instead of cb4

also like to be able to designate 3rd lber in obvious passing where mcv/zcv is better than others, understanding that you might be sending blitzers but the option would be nice

i play offline coach so im different, i love how ncaa handled it but even 50 subs over all formations wasnt quite enuff with ST formations