Formation Subs??

[JayD]

After years and years of the community asking to put in formation subs will we finally see it this year? Also an overhaul on the current broken auto sub system would be great as well.

[Hooe]

Re: Formation Subs??

In case you missed it, this was answered in the Connected Franchise Deep Dive thread.

There is no new formation substitutions interface in Madden NFL 16.

[Gman 18]

Re: Formation Subs??

They were in madden 09 wii


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[Dr Death]

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There is no new formation substitutions interface in Madden NFL 16.

And this is where the community has to ask... is anyone paying attention at EA at all??? Formation Subs have been requested for YEARS... yet they still ignore that.

Absolutely unreal.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I see some good things coming for M16, but the bottom line seems to be that, regardless of what any representative of EA/Tiburon says, the game is about the casual football, Monday Quarterback. Nothing more..

So learn to user control the flats....

[raysanti]

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<sigh>

I just... don't understand how these guys operate. I really don't.

[JayD]

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This is really ridiculous. I mean what needs to be done to get this into the game? Could they at least fix the broken auto subs so that we can see the back up running back come nto the game without having to jack up fatigue which results in disappearing players and other positions subbing too often?

[cusefan74]

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EA just continues to ignore people and the simple things that they ask for. They just are not going to learn as long as people keep going out and buying the game. Formation subs and auto subs, why would you neglect to fix those 2 things.

I think this is the year I finally say enough is enough. I just can't see me buying another Madden game with the direction it is going. I started to enjoy 15 and then the sacks just killed it for me.

Time to buy a PS2 and go back to like Madden 06 or something. Back when the game was still worth playing. I defended EA through Madden 12, but after that it has really gotten bad.

[Cashman112]

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mfw I read this thread

[Jarodd21]

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I just don't understand why they refuse to add this to the game. I can't see why EA doesn't realize how much criticism they can avoid if they give gamers FULL control of there franchise.

[Senator Palmer]

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I really would like an explanation as to why this one is so hard to add considering little brother, NCAA, had formation subs like what 3-4 years ago?

[4thQtrStre5S]

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Formation Subs is a must..Patch it in or something, but get it done...Should include Special Teams...

[The JareBear]

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So, I am purely speculating here.

I can't help but wonder why. Why don't they put this in?

Could it possible have something to do with the auto-subs, which also don't work properly? Maybe they are having trouble coding it to handle auto-subs in formations you manually have set formation subs in?

Just seems like a really simple, yet necessary feature to have in place....

With Madden I often wonder how many coding issues are connected to one another and that is why it sometimes seems like true progress in some areas is hard to achieve?

I know nothing about video game programming or development, perhaps someone with experience can add some insight?

EDIT:

Also, a few years ago didn't formation subs made IN-GAME carry over to the next game? In essence, while it wasn't perfect, formation subs WERE in the game, right? It was M12 wasn't it? I vividly remember a game not too long ago where I could sub in a backup guy or put a guy in a different spot on the field and that change carried through the whole season? Am I crazy?

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Formation Subs??

So, I am purely speculating here.

I can't help but wonder why. Why don't they put this in?

Could it possible have something to do with the auto-subs, which also don't work properly? Maybe they are having trouble coding it to handle auto-subs in formations you manually have set formation subs in?

Just seems like a really simple, yet necessary feature to have in place....

With Madden I often wonder how many coding issues are connected to one another and that is why it sometimes seems like true progress in some areas is hard to achieve?

I know nothing about video game programming or development, perhaps someone with experience can add some insight?

EDIT:

Also, a few years ago didn't formation subs made IN-GAME carry over to the next game? In essence, while it wasn't perfect, formation subs WERE in the game, right? It was M12 wasn't it? I vividly remember a game not too long ago where I could sub in a backup guy or put a guy in a different spot on the field and that change carried through the whole season? Am I crazy?

I believe I recall something about removing manual formation subs to combat cheese tactics online in head to head games, which again, would show where the game is focused at; which is fine, as I see online games, real people versus other real people, as being the current and future direction of all games..

Thing is, as many people know, and game developers know, there are people that want to play the game in a "win at all costs" level and will use questionable tactics, sorta like the Patriots do.. <--- Sorry, I couldn't pass up the opportunity... LOL

[aholbert32]

Re: Formation Subs??

So, I am purely speculating here.

I can't help but wonder why. Why don't they put this in?

Could it possible have something to do with the auto-subs, which also don't work properly? Maybe they are having trouble coding it to handle auto-subs in formations you manually have set formation subs in?

Just seems like a really simple, yet necessary feature to have in place....

With Madden I often wonder how many coding issues are connected to one another and that is why it sometimes seems like true progress in some areas is hard to achieve?

I know nothing about video game programming or development, perhaps someone with experience can add some insight?

EDIT:

Also, a few years ago didn't formation subs made IN-GAME carry over to the next game? In essence, while it wasn't perfect, formation subs WERE in the game, right? It was M12 wasn't it? I vividly remember a game not too long ago where I could sub in a backup guy or put a guy in a different spot on the field and that change carried through the whole season? Am I crazy?

Yes but the creation of CFM removed this. Keep in mind they only carried over in franchise so when they got rid of Franchise this workaround went away.