Will 3rd stringers be just as good as 1st in M16?

[juggalotusx]

Maybe it was just me but it really bothers me when I can still run the ball with a 3rd string back just as good if not better than my starter or have my 65 cb that I put in on purpose play better and make more plays than my 80's or 90's cbs.
If you are wondering who I put in hyde a low 70 player in for gore, and I put in the 49ers lower cb for brock.
I just wish sometime players would feel more like there personality and playing style, still just so monotone to me. Even receivers feel almost the same I will have a lower rated guy drop the ball just as much as a high rated guy or make the same catches, just my opinion.

[jpdavis82]

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Maybe it was just me but it really bothers me when I can still run the ball with a 3rd string back just as good if not better than my starter or have my 65 cb that I put in on purpose play better and make more plays than my 80's or 90's cbs.
If you are wondering who I put in hyde a low 70 player in for gore, and I put in the 49ers lower cb for brock.
I just wish sometime players would feel more like there personality and playing style, still just so monotone to me. Even receivers feel almost the same I will have a lower rated guy drop the ball just as much as a high rated guy or make the same catches, just my opinion.

This is kind of up in the air with Donny leaving, we'll have to see what they do this year and in the future with ratings.

[Hooe]

Re: Will 3rd stringers be just as good as 1st in M16?

Third stringers don't play as well as first stringers in Madden NFL 15 and many Madden games before this past one, so I imagine this behavior will remain the same in Madden NFL 16.

[BreakingBad2013]

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Third stringers don't play as well as first stringers in Madden NFL 15 and many Madden games before this past one, so I imagine this behavior will remain the same in Madden NFL 16.

I disagree. There not huge differences between starters and bench players. Many Speed WRs can do more damage than say, Jordy Nelson.

Your lock down CB will get burnt just as much as your 78 ovr cb. Ratings barely matter in Madden, always have.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Will 3rd stringers be just as good as 1st in M16?

Third stringers don't play as well as first stringers in Madden NFL 15 and many Madden games before this past one, so I imagine this behavior will remain the same in Madden NFL 16.

Pretty much. In our CFM I was hampered a lot when I went to my rookie QB.
Then when I went youth/speed with WR's later in year , while they had the burst and big play potential, they were not very reliable in the catching and non fumbling category.

I also had to try and revamp my CB's.. while they did cover for the most part like a veteran that was simply due to the crappy WR non attacking the ball issue... but they still got beat more than I'd like to remember.
I had a poor safety that cost me more than once with his.. "Hey look I'm getting beat again deep" formula.

[iLLWiLL]

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Carlos Hyde isn't a scrub.

Last year, Eagles 3rd RB Chris Polk was a more efficient runner in limited time than first stringer Lesean Mccoy was. Like one poster said, there isn't always a huge difference between starter and 3rd string...

[Shady Mike]

Re: Will 3rd stringers be just as good as 1st in M16?

Third stringers don't play as well as first stringers in Madden NFL 15 and many Madden games before this past one, so I imagine this behavior will remain the same in Madden NFL 16.

I also disagree

I disagree. There not huge differences between starters and bench players. Many Speed WRs can do more damage than say, Jordy Nelson.

Your lock down CB will get burnt just as much as your 78 ovr cb. Ratings barely matter in Madden, always have.

IDK why this thread has a 1 star rating lol because it's very accurate...Ratings mean V.E.R.Y. little in this franchise. Especially in these 3 major areas:

1. QB Accuracy
2. Man / Zone Coverage
3. Route Running

1. Is self explanatory a CPU-controlled Tim Tebow will shred your defense just as easily as Tom Brady would

2. In terms of defense just as Breaking Bad said your lock down CB will get burnt just as much as your 78 ovr cb

3. And this is basically the same as #2 because a 70 OVR guy with a 95 speed rating is as good as anybody if you put him in the slot lol.

So I would definitely like to see there be more of a skill gap between skill position guys like that in the situations which I mentioned earlier.

[Godgers12]

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There are only a few ratings that even matter when a player is being controlled by a user especially HB's, spd acc agl str trk are the only ratings that do anything for a HB. Also, I had this 65 ovr MLB in my online franchise and I user my MLBs, and since he had 91 spd 80 str and 95 hit he started for me and I had 15 picks with him his 1st year along with 75 tackles (people never learn to not throw at my user lol). Anyways, what did I spend his xp on? Spd, didn't even bother touching his 45 awr and prc, instead bumped his spd to 97 and his hit to 99.

[BreakingBad2013]

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Carlos Hyde isn't a scrub.

Last year, Eagles 3rd RB Chris Polk was a more efficient runner in limited time than first stringer Lesean Mccoy was. Like one poster said, there isn't always a huge difference between starter and 3rd string...

In fact in my sim online CFM, LeSean McCoy was traded because Kenjon Barner was rushing for 1200+ a year.

I actually signed Chris Polk as my feature back, and he gained about 4.5 ypc, where Hyde was less, as a higher rated back.

This was also realevant whn Geno Smith won the MVP, throwing above 65% comp.

You can have Tom Brady go down, and Jimmy G will still make all of the throws.

Even in M16 they said that the only way passes arebt caught is if a ball is deflected, knock out of wrs hands, or intercepted. Thus meaning catch ratings (drops) and qb accuracies (missed targets) aren't extremely important in Madden, once again. Unless, it is a deep pass over 30 yards, they said QBs put it on the money all day.

Ryan Nassib won 3 SBs in our Franchise, with a RB Chris Ivory as his feature back... These should be weaknesses, instead they were strengths.

[BreakingBad2013]

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This is why the FGB or FBG roster team needs to control Madden Ratings. They gave ratings from 26-99, and of the top 50 players it stretches from 99-78, making elite players, elite, and making every category under them, noticeable, physically, and mentally to the user.

[Bull_Dozer]

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This is why I like to use my own custom ratings. The default ratings don't let the elite players really rise above the scrubs.

[JohnnyCash2015]

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I disagree. There not huge differences between starters and bench players. Many Speed WRs can do more damage than say, Jordy Nelson.



Your lock down CB will get burnt just as much as your 78 ovr cb. Ratings barely matter in Madden, always have.

There's a difference between ratings barely mattering and certain ratings basically overpowering a player.

I'd get an argument for Archer over Andre Johnson, because speeds kills in madden. But not Geno smith over Brady.


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[Rabid_Beaver]

Re: Will 3rd stringers be just as good as 1st in M16?

Third stringers don't play as well as first stringers in Madden NFL 15 and many Madden games before this past one, so I imagine this behavior will remain the same in Madden NFL 16.

I've won Super Bowls with 66 ovr QB. 62 ovr RB and an entire OL rated no higher than 62 ovr.

All madden with slider tweaks. The fall off is only slight at best.

[SpyPirates]

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While I'd probably agree that there could be a wider range of OVR ratings in this game to numerically set apart the stars from the bench players (i.e. fewer 80s/low 90s, more 50s/60s), I disagree that most positions have little difference in performance between high rated players and low rated players. For example:

- Speed WR are great, but what kills in Madden 15 is really route running + speed. And good luck finding a scrub who is high in both of these ratings. What should really change here is how effective route running is.

- I'm not sure at all where the complaints at the CB position are coming from. I see that generally 95+ CBs are only getting beat on OP routes (corner/post, another issue entirely) and routes designed to beat man coverage (drags/slants), while having attributes in the mid-80s means your guy might be a bit vulnerable in coverage. Against AI, I usually go in with the gameplan to prioritize run or pass based on whether the other team's secondary is better than their front 7, and when the secondary is low-80s on average, I almost always have a big day through the air. I definitely have problems throwing against a superstar CB, so even though I have two 90+ WRs, one of them isn't seeing the ball that day if I'm against Sherman, etc.

- This one hasn't been mentioned yet, but I've been impressed at the LB spot as well. The high-rated AI LBs are just always in the right spot, and I frequently just have to shut down a certain side of the field when I'm against certain 95+ guys.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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The problem is not Madden it's the entire sports spectrum. I haven't noticed many sports games that have realistic ratings. A lot of players are overpowered. While, a lot aren't as underpowered as they should be. I'm sure there are a couple games that ratings are serviceable, but I can't think of one at the top of my head. So, yeah IMO ratings don't mean much in any sports game. There needs to be a lot more separation among players in all sports games.