Recommended Videos

Collapse

The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • #1
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    MVP
    • Dec 2009
    • 4682

    The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


    We all know about 58 OVR backup quarterbacks coming in off the bench and completing 90% of their passes. Now, supposedly the next Madden will adjust QB accuracy, but I wonder if that's the only issue. The artificial intelligence and pass rush really need to be adjusted, too.

    First, the pass rush needs to be fierce, not nurfed like they did with the small patch. To avoid sacks, qbs need to move in the pocket and get rid of the ball faster- INCLUDING INTO THE DIRT, because probably half of all incompletions in the NFL are either over throws or skid into the dirt at the wrs feet. So, more inaccuracy, but also more throw aways. The real NFL has many more than Madden.

    Thankfully, with the db/wr interactions, we probably finally see more knock downs.

    But regardless, we need CPU quarterbacks to throw faster when under pressure, and we need more of those passes to be throw aways and poor passes that no one touches.

    But most importantly, we need only the ELITE quarterbacks to play like elite quarterbacks. Only guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning should sniff at a 70% completion rate. Geno Smith? His career mark is 58%. No way he hits on 19-22 passes for 2 TDs against a talented defense like we've all experienced.
    Originally posted by Therebelyell626
    I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
    https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

    Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.
  • #2
    crenk
    Rookie
    • Jan 2009
    • 396

    Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


    Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

    Agreed 100% but the devs believe and probably accurately I might add that most casuals dont want to see between 30-50 % of their passes in the dirt, which is why madden needs two settings in addition to levels, an arcade and a sim.

    Comment

    • #3
      ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
      MVP
      • Dec 2009
      • 4682

      Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


      Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

      Originally posted by crenk
      Agreed 100% but the devs believe and probably accurately I might add that most casuals dont want to see between 30-50 % of their passes in the dirt, which is why madden needs two settings in addition to levels, an arcade and a sim.
      True, but I'm strictly talking about CPU AI. Human error is enough to keep human completion percentage close to correct, but the CPU quarterback AI is just too perfect.
      Originally posted by Therebelyell626
      I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
      https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

      Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

      Comment

      • #4
        The JareBear
        Be Good To One Another
        • Jul 2010
        • 11560

        Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


        Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

        The vids from e3 seem to show improvement here but they fooled me last year too so we just gotta wait for the final product
        "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

        OS Blog

        The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

        Comment

        • #5
          ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
          MVP
          • Dec 2009
          • 4682

          Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


          Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

          Originally posted by The JareBear
          The vids from e3 seem to show improvement here but they fooled me last year too so we just gotta wait for the final product
          Man, I saw a vid where Kaepernick is under pressure on a screen I think. First, he should have thrown it at the rbs feet. But second, he broke a tackle and had a huge running lane, but instead turned away from the line of scrimmage tiward the other endzone and just stood there until he got sacked.

          So, I am at this point more skeptical than hopeful, but we will see.
          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
          I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
          https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

          Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

          Comment

          • #6
            roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


            Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

            Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
            True, but I'm strictly talking about CPU AI. Human error is enough to keep human completion percentage close to correct, but the CPU quarterback AI is just too perfect.
            Lowering the CPU sliders helped last year, I'll do it again this year if needed.

            Comment

            • #7
              SolidSquid
              MVP
              • Aug 2014
              • 3159

              Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


              Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

              The WR DB interaction is great, but I don't want the incompletions I see to be swats or pass break ups. Watching Josh McCown last year throw balls too high or too far out of bounds is what I want. And I want to happen both consistently and realistically, as in being under pressure, not setting your feet, throwing too soon or too late all lead to inaccurate passes.

              Comment

              • #8
                Skyboxer
                Donny Baseball!
                • Jul 2002
                • 20298

                Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                Originally posted by roadman
                Lowering the CPU sliders helped last year, I'll do it again this year if needed.
                Yep for sure. I threw my share of WTF passes in the TMW league last year.. Lol
                That was a combination of sliders and the crappy confidence stuff.

                Hopefully a good balance can be had with M16.
                Joshua:
                "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
                a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


                Skyboxer OS TWITCH
                STEAM
                PSN: Skyboxeros
                SWITCH 8211-0709-4612
                XBOX Skyboxer OS

                Comment

                • #9
                  bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23285

                  Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                  Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                  Originally posted by Skyboxer
                  Yep for sure. I threw my share of WTF passes in the TMW league last year.. Lol
                  That was a combination of sliders and the crappy confidence stuff.

                  Hopefully a good balance can be had with M16.
                  Hell, I threw my share of WTF passes with Aaron Rodgers.

                  Same reasons.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    Skyboxer
                    Donny Baseball!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20298

                    Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                    Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    Hell, I threw my share of WTF passes with Aaron Rodgers.

                    Same reasons.
                    Yeah but that didn't bother me as much...
                    Joshua:
                    "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
                    a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


                    Skyboxer OS TWITCH
                    STEAM
                    PSN: Skyboxeros
                    SWITCH 8211-0709-4612
                    XBOX Skyboxer OS

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      buganation7
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 109

                      Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                      Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                      Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                      We all know about 58 OVR backup quarterbacks coming in off the bench and completing 90% of their passes. Now, supposedly the next Madden will adjust QB accuracy, but I wonder if that's the only issue. The artificial intelligence and pass rush really need to be adjusted, too.

                      First, the pass rush needs to be fierce, not nurfed like they did with the small patch. To avoid sacks, qbs need to move in the pocket and get rid of the ball faster- INCLUDING INTO THE DIRT, because probably half of all incompletions in the NFL are either over throws or skid into the dirt at the wrs feet. So, more inaccuracy, but also more throw aways. The real NFL has many more than Madden.

                      Thankfully, with the db/wr interactions, we probably finally see more knock downs.

                      But regardless, we need CPU quarterbacks to throw faster when under pressure, and we need more of those passes to be throw aways and poor passes that no one touches.

                      But most importantly, we need only the ELITE quarterbacks to play like elite quarterbacks. Only guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning should sniff at a 70% completion rate. Geno Smith? His career mark is 58%. No way he hits on 19-22 passes for 2 TDs against a talented defense like we've all experienced.
                      of course he is

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4682

                        Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                        Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                        Originally posted by SolidSquid
                        The WR DB interaction is great, but I don't want the incompletions I see to be swats or pass break ups. Watching Josh McCown last year throw balls too high or too far out of bounds is what I want. And I want to happen both consistently and realistically, as in being under pressure, not setting your feet, throwing too soon or too late all lead to inaccurate passes.
                        Certainly, but if the db/wr interaction increases incompletions by 5 or 10%, and then accuracy and throw aways add 5 or 10% more, it will be about right.
                        Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                        I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                        https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                        Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Hova57
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 3754

                          Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                          Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                          If the sliders truly work this year the game gonna be nice i think.


                          Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            eamonn16
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 16

                            Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                            Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                            I agree with you guys on this. But since madden is played competivly and have allot of tournaments like in other ea games do you think the compete players actually want this? I want realism I don't play online. But could you imagine the feed back they will get if someone loses an online game or tournament because there quarterback who has horrible accuracy over throws a wide open receiver and tgey lose? It seems like allot of games are geared towards online p l ay abd tournaments . Look at bf series were if you mention realism and things happen randomly they go nuts and flame the cap out of you. I'm with you guys I want it to be realistic as possible but the forums is only a small portion of community.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Hova57
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 3754

                              Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?


                              Re: The Most Important Question for Madden 16: Is Geno Smith still Geno Manning?

                              They should know better u shouldn't beat anyone with matt barkley throwing for 350 3 td 18/20

                              Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

                              Comment

                              Working...