I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

[Walbeb]

So I'm someone who sims all my games except the playoffs (so I go through 2-3 seasons a night) and I'm about 8 years in the future and there are maybe 4-5 players total who are above 90+ overall who are generated.

I know I can tweak the XP sliders and I really enjoy how draft classes aren't loaded with talent but it's brought the overall teams down by a large margin.

I've drafted quite a few Superstar 78-80 overalls and the only one who went above the 90+ was my LT. Most teams best generated players are around 85-86 because regression starts at 27-28.

For any of you NHL guys the same issue happens in their games once the current WHL guys get drafted.

I'm just worried messing with XP sliders will mean that any player can become good and getting gems will mean nothing.

Thoughts?

[T4VERTS]

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In a 32 man CFM the draft classes are giving too good of players. I think the issue for you may be the fact the CPU control the way xp is gained and used. The draft classes are much higher OVRs than we were lead to believe. In one test I ran there were 33 78+ guys in one draft with 6 over 80. That far surpasses the rookie class we were given this year at launch.

[dghustla]

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I feel the same. Draft classes give too low talent and not enough draftees. I still see classes with only 22 draftable LT through all rounds. That's just not a real number and it doesn't make finding "gems" feel special.

[GameBreaker35]

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I feel the opposite of the OP. Generated draft classes in Madden 17 are far more saturated with upper talent than the draft class that ships with the game. Most of the generated classes I've seen have 35+ player rated 78 OVR or above. That's crazy.

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[CrimsionXBL]

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Just did a draft last night with my buddies and I felt as if things were ideal when it came to the talent, it was a very top heavy draft but you could still find some solid, serviceable players later in the rounds.

It's harder to upgrade players this year I feel so they may hover around their initial ratings for a while and I don't mind that for players who have a slow/normal dev trait.

[brgisme]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

I feel the opposite of the OP. Generated draft classes in Madden 17 are far more saturated with upper talent than the draft class that ships with the game. Most of the generated classes I've seen have 35+ player rated 78 OVR or above. That's crazy.

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Is it crazy based on you looking at past Madden games and the rookies that were in the game and seeing how many 78 overall players their was or just based on you saying it? I am not trying to be a smart ***, just wondering if anyone has actually looked at the current years rookies and see if the future draft classes give around the same high/low ratings or if they are way off one way or another.

[mavfan21]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

You can increase the amount of XP all players earn in your CFM by adjusting the XP sliders. If you want players to progress players use that or edit a few.

[Sheba2011]

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I feel the opposite draft classes are still too easy IMO. They are better than years past but we still don't have an accurate number of first round busts like the real NFL.

[Datninja619]

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I've also done a few and I think it's right where it should be. If anything could be lowered. I've had top 5 picks, which resulted in 82+ OVR players. Instant starters. Should be that way assuming the teams drafting there need the most help. A superbowl winning team shouldn't be able to draft a 80+ OVR player. That's for sure.



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[NewscasterNews4]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

Is it crazy based on you looking at past Madden games and the rookies that were in the game and seeing how many 78 overall players their was or just based on you saying it? I am not trying to be a smart ***, just wondering if anyone has actually looked at the current years rookies and see if the future draft classes give around the same high/low ratings or if they are way off one way or another.

Looking at the rookies that came from the 2016 draft, there weren't 40-50 78 overall players in that draft according to Madden. In fact, there were only about 10 guys rated 78 or better, with a few other 77 overall players and the rest is 76 or worse. While there seem to be less elite standouts in drafts this year, there's still too many 80-77 rated players compared to how they rated the 2016 class.

[BigChillin]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

I feel the opposite of the OP. Generated draft classes in Madden 17 are far more saturated with upper talent than the draft class that ships with the game. Most of the generated classes I've seen have 35+ player rated 78 OVR or above. That's crazy.

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This is how I feel. I was talking about this in another thread but A LOT of people seem to forget that the ratings are down across the board this year. There aren't as many 90+ guys in the game as there were last year. Because of this, I actually think Madden 17's draft classes are WAY too strong, and they are certainly stronger than they were last year.




Let's say this year's ratings are down by an average of about 2 across the league (which is actually probably a conservative estimate)... I'll use the example I quoted which seems to be fairly accurate. Any given draft class averages about 35-40 guys who are rated at 78 or higher (give or take). If the overall ratings across the board have gone down by 2, then each draft class has 35-40 guys who would have been rated 80+ using last year's ratings. That is WAAAAAAAAY too much talent. If I remember correctly, there were maybe 10 or so guys who were 80+ in Madden 16 draft classes.


Draftee ratings need to be toned down a bit IMO. Rookies in Madden 17 are much stronger compared to the rest of the league than they were last year. I feel like between Madden 16 and 17, the draftee ratings didn't adjust at the same increment that they did for active players.

[BigChillin]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

Looking at the rookies that came from the 2016 draft, there weren't 40-50 78 overall players in that draft according to Madden. In fact, there were only about 10 guys rated 78 or better, with a few other 77 overall players and the rest is 76 or worse. While there seem to be less elite standouts in drafts this year, there's still too many 80-77 rated players compared to how they rated the 2016 class.

Well, you can't really judge based on the 2016 draft class because we don't have any data on the players. The ratings for the current draft class are different than what their true ratings would actually be. This is ESPECIALLY true for guys who got drafted past the first or second rounds who will end up surprising people. Wait till about halfway through the season when ratings start getting updated based on player performance and we can see how many 77-80 players there are (better yet, the end of the year).


In Madden draft classes, each player's true rating is already known because it was generated by the game. There are guys in the later rounds who start out as an 77-80 because just like in real life, you may have Tom Bradys/Russell Wilsons/Richard Shermans who are overlooked. Had those three guys been in the 2016 draft and drafted at the same spots they were drafted in real life, they would probably be rated in the high 60's in Madden 17 due to lack of data. Had those same players been in a Madden draft, they would probably all be 80+ as rookies because the game already knows their true rating.


tl;dr - you can't compare Madden drafts with the 2016 rookies because there is no way to know what the 2016 rookies' true rating actually is until they actually play.

[xzayla]

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If anything theses draft class ratings need lowered. I'm having plenty of 1st and 2nd rounders rated around 80 or better.

[therealsmallville]

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I think what a lot of you actually want is a text-based sim for this kind of stuff. A game for the masses that has to please everyone will never be 100% the way you want it with stuff like this. If there weren't very many high overall guys, EA would lose a lot of money from casual franchise dudes.

I hear Head Coach 09 was good too.


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[xzayla]

Re: I feel draft classes are not giving good enough players.

I think what a lot of you actually want is a text-based sim for this kind of stuff. A game for the masses that has to please everyone will never be 100% the way you want it with stuff like this. If there weren't very many high overall guys, EA would lose a lot of money from casual franchise dudes.

I hear Head Coach 09 was good too.


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Exactly why madden needs a slider for everything from draft class quality, gameplay speed, etc...like nba 2k series has.