Easy Deep Ball RAC catch

[hurricane83]

Has anyone experienced online players beating your stout corner with a slower WR on deep passes and the corner giving the WR like 2-3 steps. Last night I played with the Texans who has one elite and an average corner. Crabtree caught 3 deep balls over 60 yards by just doing go routes vs my cover 3 or Cover 1 defense. 2 of the 3 plays he just simply out ran the corner and caught practice level type deep balls (we talkin bout practice). Jonathan Joseph is no slouch and he got burned my Michael Crabtree repeatedly, who is by no means a burner. How does that happen? The other deep TD catch was on a play I was in position and played the swat mechanic and the DB didn't even react to my input.

Has anyone had these issues?

[Slim4824]

Re: Easy Deep Ball RAC catch

Has anyone experienced online players beating your stout corner with a slower WR on deep passes and the corner giving the WR like 2-3 steps. Last night I played with the Texans who has one elite and an average corner. Crabtree caught 3 deep balls over 60 yards by just doing go routes vs my cover 3 or Cover 1 defense. 2 of the 3 plays he just simply out ran the corner and caught practice level type deep balls (we talkin bout practice). Jonathan Joseph is no slouch and he got burned my Michael Crabtree repeatedly, who is by no means a burner. How does that happen? The other deep TD catch was on a play I was in position and played the swat mechanic and the DB didn't even react to my input.

Has anyone had these issues?

Unfortunately ive seen it frequently online. Ive learned to user the safety to stay over the top.

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[charter04]

Re: Easy Deep Ball RAC catch

Has anyone experienced online players beating your stout corner with a slower WR on deep passes and the corner giving the WR like 2-3 steps. Last night I played with the Texans who has one elite and an average corner. Crabtree caught 3 deep balls over 60 yards by just doing go routes vs my cover 3 or Cover 1 defense. 2 of the 3 plays he just simply out ran the corner and caught practice level type deep balls (we talkin bout practice). Jonathan Joseph is no slouch and he got burned my Michael Crabtree repeatedly, who is by no means a burner. How does that happen? The other deep TD catch was on a play I was in position and played the swat mechanic and the DB didn't even react to my input.



Has anyone had these issues?

You may consider using cover two.

[njmcfreak]

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Not just online I can constantly get slower wide receivers wide open on go routes in my offline CFM. It's frustrating because I do enjoy using them once in awhile, but I'm open more than not

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[mrprice33]

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I've seen this too. Still trying to figure out exactly why it's happening.


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[Gosens6]

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There's a few threads on this. It's so frustrating. Like I said, it seems like the CB just slows down, or the receiver gets a boost of some sort on these plays. It's like the CB is running in mud with NO chance of catching up.

Iv'e had to eliminate these plays from my playbook so I don't cheese the CPU. I just don't get it.

[sgwrestler11]

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I see it happen alot when the computer is in press coverage. Even if the corner has a good press rating and my wideout has a lousy release rating, I still find my wideout ripping off the press for a wide open touchdown. This is on All Pro btw.

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[Bigg Cee]

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this is becoming a nightmare in M17. I too have notice this a lot more lately since ppl are figuring this out. Every game online is now deep ball paradise. Even if your in right postions or time it well they always fly to the ball faster then your DB's. This has to be a glitch? There's times I play online and see ppl throw crazy passes to no one and my DB or or safety is there rdy to catch it, when out of nowere a WR comes flying in with hyper speed boosters on too make the catch he had no business making and sometimes it's over 2 or 3 defenders. UGHHHHHHHH...

[hurricane83]

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this is becoming a nightmare in M17. I too have notice this a lot more lately since ppl are figuring this out. Every game online is now deep ball paradise. Even if your in right postions or time it well they always fly to the ball faster then your DB's. This has to be a glitch? There's times I play online and see ppl throw crazy passes to no one and my DB or or safety is there rdy to catch it, when out of nowere a WR comes flying in with hyper speed boosters on too make the catch he had no business making and sometimes it's over 2 or 3 defenders. UGHHHHHHHH...

Exactly what u said. This game is so close but things like this are glaring and need to be tuned or patched.

[CujoMatty]

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In my franchise I traded for Julio Jones and I had to actually quit and restart because it wasn't fair. I could go deep every play no matter what defense. I'm not kidding. 100 percent of the time. I tried putting the threshold and speed parity at 100 and it still was effective 75 percent of the time. Finally last night I switched to all Madden and used charters sliders from the slider thread and it's knocked it down to being tolerable. I hope they look into it though.

[JoshC1977]

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I've seen this too. Still trying to figure out exactly why it's happening.


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Easy answer....in CFM, the defensive holding slider is bugged. You can set it in your CFM sliders, but it reverts to 50 in-game. So, that slider is critical in getting the game at the LOS and throwing the patterns off...very critical on deep plays.

[mrprice33]

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Easy answer....in CFM, the defensive holding slider is bugged. You can set it in your CFM sliders, but it reverts to 50 in-game. So, that slider is critical in getting the game at the LOS and throwing the patterns off...very critical on deep plays.

Doesn't explain the same phenomenon in play now or practice though


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[StumpyJones]

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Weird. I throw Brandin Cooks on gos and flies every once in awhile. If I'm against press, it's almost always a sure thing, but I've had the DB stay with him in man before (and he's 96 speed). Also I've had the safety come over and help as well. Granted, he's won some of these battles, but I'm not seeing the 100% success rate you guys are talking about. Default All-Pro.

[Sgexpat]

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Weird. I throw Brandin Cooks on gos and flies every once in awhile. If I'm against press, it's almost always a sure thing, but I've had the DB stay with him in man before (and he's 96 speed). Also I've had the safety come over and help as well. Granted, he's won some of these battles, but I'm not seeing the 100% success rate you guys are talking about. Default All-Pro.

Same here, I see mixed outcomes on deep balls I throw. Connections, overthrows (awesome) and picks.

I can't remember the mix being this good before, it's balanced for me.

That said I can see the WR seems to get an artificial speed boost sometimes, I think if the defensive holding adjustment worked that would fix it and also increase the holding calls slightly (which would be more realistic too). I use joshc settings

[aspengc8]

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There are outside release go routes that get off the bump quickly or won't get jammed at all. Don't play Cover 1/3 press if they have a 90+ speed receiver and you can't help over the top.