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  • feeq14
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 3526

    #1

    Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

    I have been tweaking and mulling over things in the game that erk me, and one is that I and the pc have far too many big runs, even on All madden. I will often with good to avg running backs break multiple huge runs a game after breaking maybe one tackle.

    There are several reasons for this I think. One is that backs are much more agile and responsive to changes in direction this year than the last 2 years meaning you can hit a crease or a hole much better than before. This is fine.

    The other problem is that the defense has not been juiced up to combat this. Specifically, with all of the new mechanics for run fits and gaps, players don't slide to the ball as much on outside plays. Worst of all down field blockers are WAAAAY too effective. In real life non play side blockers and wrs aren't nearly as active as they are in madden. So now a single broken tackle on a sweep or toss can lead to a huge gain 80% of the time. I have to turn down RB just to keep backs in check which throws off everything else. Anyone have ideas to fix this?
  • ajra21
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2170

    #2
    Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

    i'd say it was partly that and partly DB just not running fastest enough to catch the RB.

    the number of times i've broken a run for a TD only to watch the replay and see three DB (all faster than my RB) just not properly chase him, is kinda high.

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    • underdog13
      MVP
      • Apr 2012
      • 3222

      #3
      Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

      Wr's are getting a ton of pancakes too

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      • ajra21
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2170

        #4
        Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

        i've seen my WR block a guy, spin off and block another guy which doesn't happen very often in real life like it does in M17.

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        • wellred
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 233

          #5
          Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

          The running game is just far too easy this year full stop.

          I think its far too easy to get to the second level. I have no issue with what RBs can do in space. Thats why they play that position and usually when a RB has the ball in your secondary its bad news. But the cpu has no urgency getting off their blocks on the line. When Im defending the run you see guys busting through blowing up plays. The cpu rarely has that success. And if youre getting to the LB's every single run, of course its just a matter of time till you bust one.

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          • ajra21
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 2170

            #6
            Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

            Originally posted by wellred
            The running game is just far too easy this year full stop.

            I think its far too easy to get to the second level. I have no issue with what RBs can do in space. Thats why they play that position and usually when a RB has the ball in your secondary its bad news. But the cpu has no urgency getting off their blocks on the line. When Im defending the run you see guys busting through blowing up plays. The cpu rarely has that success. And if youre getting to the LB's every single run, of course its just a matter of time till you bust one.
            my first two seasons, i never broke a long run. just didn't happen.

            but now, my OL are all 84 OVR plus with high 80s or low 90s in run & impact blocking so once a game, my bruising HB will break a big one.

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            • sportomatic75
              Pro
              • Apr 2010
              • 882

              #7
              Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

              I can second this thread. Too many breakout rushing TDs for 50-70 yards

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              • wellred
                Banned
                • Sep 2016
                • 233

                #8
                Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                Originally posted by ajra21
                my first two seasons, i never broke a long run. just didn't happen.

                but now, my OL are all 84 OVR plus with high 80s or low 90s in run & impact blocking so once a game, my bruising HB will break a big one.
                What formations do you run out of? I find in power run formations the cpu will generally call an appropriate defense.


                I call a lot of inside zone runs out of shotgun, and it will gash the defense bad. I average 7+ ypc running these plays. Because the cpu always calls a nickle package and spreads out their line. The hole is an easy read, and their safties better be able to tackle.

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                • PredatorKingdom
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 85

                  #9
                  Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                  Yeah I've noticed that myself in this game more than past Madden games it seems like the big runs happen far too often for both sides of the football. I actually think for me when I run it's earned though because I have to have good blockers.

                  The CPU though on the other hand is obnoxious because I know my defensive schemes are good enough to stop the run and so is my talent. They get to the second level way too fast.

                  I've constantly over the last 3 seasons have had a worst ranked defense because of my inability to consistently stop the big running plays which happen 2-4 times a game it seems like. My defense is usually top 10 in stopping the pass but the 2,000+ yards I give up on the ground makes my defense look worse than what it is.

                  Part of the reason why I don't have a huge problem with this is because it makes the games more competitive against the CPU where I'm not always blowing them out but it's still irritating because I take great pride in my defensive performances.

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                  • Black Bruce Wayne
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1459

                    #10
                    Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                    Is this online or offline?

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                    • underdog13
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3222

                      #11
                      Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                      Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
                      Is this online or offline?

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                      • JDoze
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 106

                        #12
                        Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                        I think the issue is more along the lines of your A.I. defense not sprinting towards the ball. The human controlled RB is most likely holding sprint. I've never felt like A.I. defense actually sprints... which is why they always get that boost in speed on the switch.

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                        • Black Bruce Wayne
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 1459

                          #13
                          Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                          Originally posted by underdog13
                          both online and offline
                          Oh ok. Online is a lost cause. Offline I'd adjust sliders to turn down the CPU run blocking

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                          • RoDogz17
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 231

                            #14
                            Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                            I've seen receivers block like 90 overall tackles.. Hence the long runs in my opinion

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                            • mcavner
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 708

                              #15
                              Re: Too many big runs because downfield blocking is too effective

                              Wide receivers are the best blockers in the game on runs, running backs are the best blockers in the game on passes.

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