Loads of posts to reply to, will try to address it all here if I can:
The tool isn't designed to let you edit everything on that sheet. If you use the protected version, you'll find that only cells that already have a value in are editable. I'd like to provide an interface to allow users to freely edit all criteria themselves and add new criteria, but I fear this is probably something for version 4 or 5 as it would be very difficult and time-consuming to build.
No, suggest you refer to the blog post linked in the OP for the actual logic. Some of the criteria are "at least one from X Y and Z", not all of X Y and Z.
If you review the OVRs after the draft, you'll find that there probably aren't any/many players who are 75+ for these positions. Some draft classes are very weak at certain positions and you may not find any players in a given class at some positions. For example, in my CFM it took me 3 years to find a draftable MLB and in that time, there weren't actually any 75+ MLBs available. You'll also find that the total number of draftable prospects varies by class. I've had a class so weak that only about 20 players were draftable in total, but I've had others where about 40 were pretty good (this is post tuning update BTW).
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As for you toying with the idea of making the draft status less black and white, this is absolutely something that would take this tool to the "next level" in my opinion. Once I had scouted the majority of available players, I had a total of ~26-30 DRAFT-able players (I did run out of Scouting Points, did too much scouting of projected Undrafted players early on...), which I don't think is enough. The majority of them were projected 1st round talents, so many were gone after Round 1. If we had a tiered Draft Status system that wasn't either Draft or Do not draft, our draft boards would have a lot more options.
My suggestion here would be to have the Draft Status to output something similar to the following:
Tier 1 - Draft, and don't think twice (Highest graded players, perhaps those above a 90-something True Value Rating)
Tier 2 - Draft, should be quite good (Next grouping of players, perhaps lower 90s TVR, into high 80s)
Tier 3 - Draft, but lacks in something (Good players, one of their Skills may be at the threshold for Skill Requirement, TVR a bit lower in 80s)
Tier 4 - Draftable, but probably not a star (Solid players, not elite in any categories, one or more of their Skills may be at the threshold for Skill Requirement, probably contains more players than Tier 1, 2, and/or 3 combined)
Tier 5 - Draftable, but low end of spectrum (Risky player with some nice traits but others are just below Skill Requirement thresholds)
Tier 6 - Risky, buyer beware (Risky player with fewer nice traits, probably not draftable)
Tier 7 - Do not draft (Does not meet more than one Skill Requirement or Combine requirement, stay away)
I think some combination of this kind of Tier system with the risk rating based on a percentage of checking criteria passed or failed would help to make this the ultimate scouting tool for Madden CFM. What are your thoughts on a Tier system and how feasible it would be to implement, Old Man Nathy?
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I'm thinking something along the same lines, though it wouldn't be based on TVR, it would be based on number of criteria passed/failed. I'll see what feedback other people have about this. At the very least, I'd like to have a tier for 70-75 OVR players so that there are more late round prospects to choose from.
Thanks, I'll take you up on this offer!
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I just finished my first draft class using this tool, so I thought I would share.
Round 1 Pick 4
LE Dijon Hollis
81 OVR Super Star Development
Ranked #2 on the board with a 93.96 True Value Rating
He was my targeted first pick and luckily he fell to me at the fourth pick. The top rated player in TVR was LOLB Ray Steitz, but I didn't need anyone at the position. Steitz ended up with a 77 OVR and a Normal Development, so I hit a home run with this pick.
Round 1 Pick 32
RT Charley Cooley
78 OVR Normal Development
Ranked #6 on the board and a 93.10 TVR
The guy I was targeting here was CB Delen Coffee who was projected as an early second round pick, but the Seahawks snagged him at 24 overall. Coffee turns out to be 81 OVR with SS development
Round 2 Pick 4
C Austin Lafleur
73 OVR with Super Star Development
Ranked #20 on the board with an 88.47 TVR
There were a couple RBs available that were ranked higher, but I knew a good ranked RB was going to be available later, so I took the highest rated non RB here. Although he's not ranked high, I am happy with the development trait.
Round 2 Pick 29
QB Tannon Kern
76 OVR with a Normal Development Trait
Ranked #19 on the board with an 88.92 TVR
He had the highest TVR of any QB and was projected as a late 3rd round pick. There was one other QB worth drafting with the same OVR and he went in the first round. His development trait was quick, so he has the edge here. Not bad though for a late 2nd round pick.
Round 3 Pick 28
HB Deandre Enzor
73 OVR and a Quick Development Trait
Ranked 21 on the board with an 88.42 TVR
There were eight RBs in this draft that the scouting tool suggested I draft. Six of them had overall ratings between 75-79 and only one was rated lower than Enzor. Enzor was the only one projected to go after the second round.
Round 5 Pick 28
RG Jarius Peerman
75 OVR and a Normal Development Trait
Ranked 23 on the board with an 88.14 TVR
Highest ranked player left on my draft board.
Round 6 Pick 28
RE Trey Paige-Moss
OVR 72 and a Normal Development Trait
Ranked 34 on the board with an 82.67 TVR
At his point in the draft I only had two players left on my draft board with the other being DT Felix Rudolph. Both of these players were considered risky picks, so I just chose the higher of the two. Rudolph ended up with a 69 OVR and a slow development trait.
Conclusion
This is definitely better than the draft classes I have had in the past, so the tool worked well. It might have been better had I allocated my scouting points more efficiently. I kind of screwed up and only was able to scout about two rounds worth of CBs.
Also, risky picks really are risky. The 6 lowest rated OVR from my board were considered risky picks. The two highest risky picks were rated 78 OVR.
Anyway, thanks a lot for making this tool. It should really help me turn whatever team I use into a dynasty.
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Great stuff, thanks for sharing. Solid draft class, I'd say that's about par for the course post tuning update. Sometimes you'll find you do better than that, other times you might find you do worse.
Awesome, looking forward to hearing your findings. If you could capture the actual OVR against each prospect afterwards (just add a new column) from the draft recap screen that would be awesome (and then send it to me obviously!). The more data I have, the better I'll be able to tweak the criteria in the future.
The only one I can guarantee it works with is Excel 2013 or newer. I'll ask some people to beta test new versions on other spreadsheet applications and older versions of Excel though.
There is one... It's called Throw on the Run I think. Definitely in there.
10-08-2016, 11:17 AM
. So far I've scouted every prospects top 3 attributes and kept track of every storyline player and what it was about (ie hurt, Heisman, record broke, bad game, etc.). Now I just have to plug in the Combine data, draft, and record Ovr from all players.
