Do you think Madden "picks" winners of games??

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

It happens quit frequently when you take 32 guys feedback on it over 8+ seasons per release. There is a mechanic in there for momentum, like I said I think it may be the old hot cold system just hidden. One of the developers hinted at it in one of my interviews, I'll look around and see if I can find it tonight.

I'm glad that you've posted on this. I definitely feel like there is a momentum system, but since it can't be measured in any truly objective way, there has been no point in arguing with the devs on Twitter when they say that there isn't.

There is definitely something that alters the win/loss probability of the dice roles during games so that players are playing way above or below their ratings. I don't have a problem with it, I just wish that the team could see that it was there.

[howboutdat]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

I'm glad that you've posted on this. I definitely feel like there is a momentum system, but since it can't be measured in any truly objective way, there has been no point in arguing with the devs on Twitter when they say that there isn't. There is definitely something that alters the win/loss probability of the dice roles during games so that players are playing way above or below their ratings. I don't have a problem with it, I just wish that the team could see that it was there.

Yes there is for sure something there, hidden somewhere, maybe not even known to them.But you ask people in 32 man leagues , that plays alot of seasons per year.... all the owners will tell you they see it,even when they are the team that wins . Its not like its just guys who lose that see this , even the guys who win see it ,so its alot more to it , than just someone trying to rationalize why they lost.

And im speaking from over 50 seasons of madden experience in Franchise mode since madden 12 and its been there every year.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

The balance settings and ratings weights for the various rolls are indeed adjusted by changing the game difficulty or adjusting the game's sliders and / or Tiburon releasing a new tuning file. That's as far as it goes. Beyond that, let's just apply Occam's razor to this, shall we - what benefit is there for Tiburon having the game predetermine a winner when they are trying mightily to push the game's online competitive / e-sport scene? Having any sort of "pre-determined victory" or even "pre-determined favorite" for an online user-vs-user game would completely undermine the legitimacy of any e-sport match outcome before any game is ever played and would destroy the competitive scene before it gets off the ground. It's just not there.

The only possibility at all for any "picking" is that there is a momentum weight as the game goes on, and only if it's left over from years past. In other words, it wouldn't be the game picking a winner before hand. It'd be more like after a series of events the dice rolls stack against a team.

Now, we KNOW there is at least one form of this IF player confidence is dynamic (like in Madden 25, for example, when players become cold or on fire based on events in the game). Otherwise, it doesn't seem like a very feasible thing.

[underdog13]

I'll never understand people who think they know the code better than the developers.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

I'll never understand people who think they know the code better than the developers.

I'm not sure if the developers knows what code is what from legacy coding to present coding.

[charter04]

I don't think in MUT, DC, or regular head to head there is any boost to either team. I think a dev did say there is some home field advantage percentage in CFM though. One of those things was a cold weather team playing at a warm weather stadium.

I think they also said some teams have a better home field advantage.

I'm not sure what the % is though.

I do not believe the game picks.

In the league I'm in every year the best players find a way to win and so if the game decided they would lose more.


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[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I'm not sure if the developers knows what code is what from legacy coding to present coding.

This is one of the great challenges and the developers have admitted to it. They don't fully know exactly what everything does and what everything is tied to because it's such a tangled web.

[timhere1970]

I don't think the game picks winners but I do think it makes things go wrong. Especially, in the fourth quarter. Over half of all passing yards against me through over a hundred games happens in the fourth quarter. Almost all of my non qb fumbles, likewise are in the fourth. I know the developers say they just try harder to score but blitzes are picked up and the wr will be 20 yards downfield before my unblocked linebacker can cover the five yards to the qb. It has been this way for years. It is what it is.