That Swerve move is cheesy garbage ...

[BigBlue]

Watching the championship on twitch and I have to say that the WR swerve move (along with zigzag running in the open field) is complete cheesy garbage. I hope that the developers remove it from the game as these are clear exploits.

Just my opinion

BigBlue


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[jfsolo]

I agree with the people who say that having these kinds of exploits happen on the big stage for all to see is great, because the embarrassment that they cause everyone in the organization makes it pretty much a stone cold lock that a lot of them will be gone for M18. That kind of stuff hurts the development of the game as a legit esport. So it ultimately helps everyone from a gameplay improvement perspective.

Rex can say, "I need X amount of resources to fix this nonsense" and he'll get it for that stuff.

[DeuceDouglas]

I realize that most of the viewers are of the casual variety so they're not going to know or pick up on these things but it bugs me when the casters talk about how diverse a player's scheme is when both players are only calling a same handful of plays the entire game. One of them was also mentioning how Donovan McNabb was a good pick because of how much quicker he's able to get the ball out and AFIK I don't think that's a thing.

It's something to watch but IMO it'd be a lot more entertaining and would keep me watching if it more closely resembled real football.

[Greenblood60]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

I agree with the people who say that having these kinds of exploits happen on the big stage for all to see is great, because the embarrassment that they cause everyone in the organization makes it pretty much a stone cold lock that a lot of them will be gone for M18. That kind of stuff hurts the development of the game as a legit esport. So it ultimately helps everyone from a gameplay improvement perspective. Rex can say, "I need X amount of resources to fix this nonsense" and he'll get it for that stuff.

I don't think it's that simple. Zig zag running has been a problem since Madden 11.

[howboutdat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenblood60

I don't think it's that simple. Zig zag running has been a problem since Madden 11.

and zigzag running wont ever stop until we finally get real foot planting( promised in madden 25 , still waiting to see) and real momentum/physics. To me it is still one of the largest issues for me with madden is the lack of actual physics in this game that play out right. For one they claimed the ball now has real physics which it clearly does not. I still see ball go thru people and people behind them catch balls, some of those tipped passes are just down right outrageous . Just last night my wr tipped on at about the 30 yard line, that proceeded to go sky high off the screen, and literally landed in the back of the endzone. The ball went so high , i had time to click on a different wr at the 30 , run him all the was to endzone and almost catch it.

Momentum should have to do with weight + speed. But it clearly does not in so many cases. This game really really needs real physics in the game. Yeah yeah, i know master builders, its "not that easy" , but its something they need to work on tirelessly.The running/skating on ice is just horrible.

[StL_RamZ]

All the developers need to do is watch one of those game and realize what's wrong with the game, they can locate all the flaws in gameplay since those player exploit them


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[N51_rob]

Yeah, all that stuff is unfortunate, and its good to even see the competitive community call out the WR swerve. But as far as the zig-zag running isn't a big deal to the competitive community. It was a bigger black eye for EA when that QB/PA glitch caused someone to lose in the Madden Classic or whatever tourney that was. With the three different game modes coming stuff like that probably isn't going anywhere, the swerve might be tuned to be less effective.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

Yeah, all that stuff is unfortunate, and its good to even see the competitive community call out the WR swerve. But as far as the zig-zag running isn't a big deal to the competitive community. It was a bigger black eye for EA when that QB/PA glitch caused someone to lose in the Madden Classic or whatever tourney that was. With the three different game modes coming stuff like that probably isn't going anywhere, the swerve might be tuned to be less effective.

This is why I don't think we'll see anything in regards to proper footplanting or momentum being respected any time soon. Not only is it probably a time consuming implementation but a lot of what is considered 'stick skillz' is just abuse of the lack of realistic player movement. If it was implemented a lot of that freedom would be taken away from a user player and that's a huge no-no for the competitive side and they're definitely going to win out IMO.