Rex on Franchise Mode (10/26)

[Charvalos]

The problem isn't only Franchise Mode.

They can make the perfect Franchise Mode but if the gameplay still what is now, it's nearly useless.

[jfsolo]

Clint said on Twitter that Franchise mode retention is up even over 17, which of course they said did very well. So it would seem that the OS, YouTube, and Twitter echo chamber is not indicative of the actually health of the Mode. People here are finally coming to terms with the reality that the depth and development of CFM is not going to be what many here prefer, and they will of course make their purchasing decisions accordingly.

Given EA's company wide emphasis on "live services" content, Clint, Rex, and John will obviously have to fight really hard to add any of the more hardcore football features every year, and they are probably going to lose most of the those battles, but they will win a few too because they will fight for them. A lot of other teams would just tow the party line.

[RidinDwnKingsley]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor and Sword

Neither am I. I am done with Madden. Madden 18 is my last hurrah. Until meaningful upgrades are made to CPU AI the game is worthless to me moving forward. I can simply play 16,17 and 18. We are in the rearview mirror (traditional pioneer Madden franchise players). Really it’s that apparent and has been made loud and clear. No problem. But no more getting my money or purchasing this annually. It’s over.

I agree.... I try with CFM but it’s lifeless and dull compared to other sports titles, you can’t control 32 teams and you start a franchise and good players are missing from the start it’s beyond frustrating after all these years. I miss NCAA.


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[Outkizast]

Usually I play Madden over NBA2k... But they come out about the same time and maybe I should just switch my focus to NBA...

[roadman]

I know for a fact I don't appreciate the long term vision of CFM, but that is the way the world is revolving. I just know I won't be contributing to that long term version with any extra purchases.

Now, having said that, at least it's some steps in the right direction. We never receive any CFM news until early June and it's been underwhelming the last 5 years or so on that end.

In just one weeks time, there has been notification of hiring for CFM and now discussion in a popular followed podcast as well, even though it was a discussion of the long term future vs short term future.

We all know they aren't able to discuss the vision going forward for 19 until June, but at least there has been a bit of movement in the CFM arena lately.

[UpNorthCatsFan]

I actually have some (what I believe anyways) very helpful ideas on franchise mode to make it more fun and stuck to it. I’ll post it later


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[JayhawkerStL]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I know for a fact I don't appreciate the long term vision of CFM, but that is the way the world is revolving. I just know I won't be contributing to that long term version with any extra purchases. Now, having said that, at least it's some steps in the right direction. We never receive any CFM news until early June and it's been underwhelming the last 5 years or so on that end. In just one weeks time, there has been notification of hiring for CFM and now discussion in a popular followed podcast as well, even though it was a discussion of the long term future vs short term future. We all know they aren't able to discuss the vision going forward for 19 until June, but at least there has been a bit of movement in the CFM arena lately.

Nothing in that interview leads me to believe that "making franchise mode into what it needs to be" is going to result into anything that the dedicated franchise sim players want. I think most of this is just PR, to calm down the forums and to help spur more Madden purchases, particularly once the XB1X drops. I think we've all had different moments when we realized that franchise just wasn't a good mode anymore.

For me, it was long enough ago that I don't care anymore. I find the gameplay fun and enjoy other modes. Can't say I wouldn't enjoy a good franchise mode more, but then, I don't think the franchise modes on modern consoles have been worth the time. Even the very best has enough issues I'm not interested.

But sports games have made one mode I appreciate the most anyway, and no, it's not MUT. Play Now modes that import data and commentary to the game makes that mode feel as immersive as a sim. But Play Now with current rosters, lineups, stats and commentary is fantastic.

What MUT did was save online play, which had become stale and boring. Building your own team and taking on others is much more fun than latching on to whatever team you end up with in generic vs modes.

Everyone lamenting the loss of franchise is pretty much right. It's gone. But that doesn't make the other modes not fun. And it doesn't make EA evil for going with the flow. There are a lot of actors that go into it, but EA would spend more time building and promoting a franchise mode if they believed it would lead to enough sales to pay for itself and add to the bottom line.

[TheShizNo1]

I feel like they try to reinvent the wheel. They can't look at other games and see what sports fans like/appreciate and go from there? I know it's not that easy to just put it in the game, but I figured it could at least give them a starting point.

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