Does Madden Cheat so CPU wins?

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderhorse

This game is scripted and the people who try to defend it are incredibly ignorant or just flat out dense.

Let's not use insults please.

Make your point maturely, not aggressively.

[Thunderhorse]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Let's not use insults please. Make your point maturely, not aggressively.

Perhaps denial?

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderhorse

Perhaps denial?

Not interested in a back and forth.

It's a pretty simple ask. You can take it or leave it. Up to you.

[CM Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderhorse

This game is scripted

You do realize how utterly impossible it would be for Tiburon to have rigid scripted sequences for every user's games across millions of consoles, each with different final scores, stats, scenarios, and human / CPU opponents?

That said, the blocked field goal sequence is clearly a special case where if a user times inputs incredibly precisely it triggers a canned block-kick set of animations depending on which player of the three eligible kick blockers the user is controlling. The CPU, if it gets a good dice roll and you don't achieve a perfect kick (100% power, no over-kick, 100% accuracy; you'll see a blue pulse under your kicker when you pull it off), can pull off blocked field goals as well, obviously.

In addition, achieving a perfect kick will prevent user opponents from pulling off a blocked field goal as well.

[NinersFan49]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

You do realize how utterly impossible it would be for Tiburon to have rigid scripted sequences for every user's games across millions of consoles, each with different final scores, stats, scenarios, and human / CPU opponents?

It isn't rigidly scripted for every game for every user. It's more of a loose scripting algorithm that guides the game in a certain direction. Like if one team (user or cpu) gets too far ahead early, it will slow them down and allow the other team to catch up.

It will force a loss on the user very rarely, mostly it just wants the game to follow a pattern.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by NinersFan49

It isn't rigidly scripted for every game for every user. It's more of a loose scripting algorithm that guides the game in a certain direction. Like if one team (user or cpu) gets too far ahead early, it will slow them down and allow the other team to catch up. It will force a loss on the user very rarely, mostly it just wants the game to follow a pattern.

So, that could be similar to what the NFL experiences on Sunday's sometimes.

Take for instance last weeks Browns vs Packers game. Browns, the worst team in the league, had a 21 to 7 lead going into the 4th quarter. The game started to guide towards the Packers direction in the 4th quarter and the game went into OT with the Packers prevailing and winning in OT.

Same with the SB last year, a tale of 2 halves and close to 2.5 halves.

[JayhawkerStL]

Sports fans ought to be required to a take a course in statistics. The same logical fallacies you see in this thread are common when fans talk about real life sports.

The number one problem developers face when trying to make sports games sim is that the people judging its "sim-ness" often have misconceptions about what that means, and sometimes, are just clueless. The more realistic the game, less likely many fans are to believe it is not scripted.

Honestly, every time this comes up, all it does is out the guys that I never want to have sports discussions with. It's not different than every poker game I play, where the certain niche of gamer will scream that the cards are not random and are set to force action and make it so that bigger hands like flushes and straights are more common. Prominence Poker finally just put a stickied thread up about card randomization. It doesn't stop the endless complaining, but it does seem to keep it in one thread.

That niche of gamer sees sports games as a platform for them to show how smart and logical they are. When they play and get different results, they will never, ever, look at what they can do different. Best case scenario, they will tweak sliders to get the results they want from their poor decisions. And if they lose, it sure as hell wasn't their fault.

The worst was the fix for the NHL game in which gamers adjusted sliders so that CPU teams would not alter their strategies anymore. Because they weren't altering theirs, so late in the game, when the CPU would go more aggressive, they called it comeback code. Even though the game has a ton of tools to adjust strategy on the fly, to play more conservative, to focus on getting your third line more minutes because fatigue sets in when you are on defense longer, the "fix" was to make the CPU dumber than them.

[Shogunreaper]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderhorse

Probably the best way to describe it.

was that before the qb ai patch?

because the cpu never misses a sack opportunity on me.