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Old 05-05-2018, 08:05 PM   #153
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I do not believe a company as large and diverse as EA is looking for a "yes man." I would believe they want someone with vision. I too witnessed the interviews where Rex allowed his "tell" to show in regards to his inner conflict with the company or decisions in general. Showing conflict to the public is not good. It is not a good means to forcing compromise or to get one's way. It's is bad business etiquette. Be careful with words and expressions when in public.

^^^ With that, I am in no way saying Rex actually, or purposely used public arenas as a means to push agenda or sway others within the company. I do believe Rex wears his passion on his sleeve though. And it can be very difficult to hold such passion inside. I think as the process of creating Madden every year wore on, he burned out.

Burnout is completely understandable. And Colorado is one of the best places a person can go to live and get back to finding themselves and their family life.
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:51 PM   #154
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I don't want to hear lets give this new dev a chance because we heard that same song too many times with the 3 year plan ect.. we should know by now that Madden has been Madden (not NFL football) since 06 .I think we should all write letters to the higher up suits to please don't make MUT&Longshot the face of madden and make CFM and gameplay first priority or we will not buy 19 and future games.
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:50 AM   #155
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I think that the upcoming release of a couple football games are going to be worth watching. They are no immediate threat to EA's Madden, as I would believe anyone who would buy a competitors game would also buy Madden.

If Axis Football, for example, provides a relatively popular Franchise system, which is their focus, then EA will be watching and emulating. If the impression given to many here from Rex's tweet about owing the Franchise community is what many believe it to be, it could be EA's response to an anticipated competitor in the Franchise mode area.
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Old 05-06-2018, 01:06 PM   #156
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I highly doubt that a letter writing campaign to the suits would sway their decision either way because they have investors to answer to.

Sounds great in theory, but in reality, the suits will go where the profits are.

If marketing and suits (non NFL football people), they will go to where the market is profitable.

It's as clear as mud.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:03 AM   #157
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I highly doubt that a letter writing campaign to the suits would sway their decision either way because they have investors to answer to.

Sounds great in theory, but in reality, the suits will go where the profits are.

If marketing and suits (non NFL football people), they will go to where the market is profitable.

It's as clear as mud.
Something that is interesting to me in this thread is we talk a lot about promotions and marketing from the suits at EA as well as the devs. Though they do really hype competitive tournaments an absolute ton...this past year the Bomber League also has had a few of its games streamed on EA's Twitch channel. I know franchise isn't getting the love we all feel it deserves, but I do think they at least somewhat care about the Sim audience. Maybe not as much as we'd hope. But, the legacy of what Coach Madden saw for the game is still probably there at least in spirit. I do think 19 will see a franchise update. Probably will please some people, but leave many unsatisfied. I've learned to try to throw my imagination into franchise mode as well as trying to keep moves realistic and build storylines in my head. I think I'll probably like a lot of the changes made but still crave more. It's what we all deal with. I've had a lot of fun with Madden in CFM these past two years. We can only go up from here with CFM because there's so much room to improve. But, at least the mode functions for the most part. It's just disappointing to see what an NBA 2k has in their franchise mode, or even games like FIFA or NHL that Madden just doesn't have yet.

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Madden Franchise Mode is doomed, the rest of the Madden team only cares about micro-transactions like Madden Ultimate Team
That's a bit dramatic. Rex didn't even work on Franchise.
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Something that is interesting to me in this thread is we talk a lot about promotions and marketing from the suits at EA as well as the devs. Though they do really hype competitive tournaments an absolute ton...this past year the Bomber League also has had a few of its games streamed on EA's Twitch channel. I know franchise isn't getting the love we all feel it deserves, but I do think they at least somewhat care about the Sim audience. Maybe not as much as we'd hope. But, the legacy of what Coach Madden saw for the game is still probably there at least in spirit. I do think 19 will see a franchise update. Probably will please some people, but leave many unsatisfied. I've learned to try to throw my imagination into franchise mode as well as trying to keep moves realistic and build storylines in my head. I think I'll probably like a lot of the changes made but still crave more. It's what we all deal with. I've had a lot of fun with Madden in CFM these past two years. We can only go up from here with CFM because there's so much room to improve. But, at least the mode functions for the most part. It's just disappointing to see what an NBA 2k has in their franchise mode, or even games like FIFA or NHL that Madden just doesn't have yet.

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As far as the MBL games being streamed on EA twitch, it came from reaching out to a lot of different people at EA over time (months) and being flexible on when we streamed. The viewership during those games was actually pretty good, and it did lead to a lot of new people finding our channel. When we were streaming those games keep in mind Rex had basically checked out already, so the support came from others within the organization. I think there is still plenty of support for CFM inside EA, especially heading into M19, the question is beyond where do we go?

I think trying to look beyond M19 and predict CFM's role is difficult. A lot can change between now and then. E-sports of real sports doesn't look to be taking off for any game at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if they pivot off that eventually as I am guessing the financial commitment to it isn't small. I am hearing some positive things for CFM heading into next year, so hopefully a positive CFM year with positive feedback on the game build momentum to carry that on into the following release.
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Old 05-07-2018, 08:12 AM   #160
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I think this will result in a step back for the series, but its not all unexpected. I remember watching Rex's interviews this past cycle and he wasn't exactly hiding the fact that he wasn't thrilled with certain decisions or mandates that were passed down (e.g. Longshot).

He just didn't seem to have the same level of excitement and pride in the game as he had in years past.
I remember following his tweets when stuff was being announced and I recall him retweeting all of the announcements apart from the Longshot one. At least, not immediately.

Imagine if John Madden (who if I'm not mistaken used to be consulted for ideas and so forth back in the PS2 days of the series) asked them to cut his name from the game because it was no longer headed in the direction he was comfortable with. Unlikely - very, very unlikely, because it's a nice money maker for him - but wow, what a message that would send to EA Tiburon.

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