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Old 06-11-2018, 01:35 PM   #49
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How is it realistic that a player is somehow worse just because he's in a system that doesn't fit him? He's not worse, he just doesn't fit. What you're asking for is UNrealistic and redundant.

If I take over San Francisco and switch to a power run scheme, Jarrick McKinnon isn't gonna suddenly be a worse back... but he's going to perform worse because I'm running him on ISO all the time. That IS realistic. Having him suddenly forget how to juke is not. Dez Bryant isn't gonna forget how to run a dig if he signs with a team that doesn't run many digs, he's just not going to be used to his greatest potential if he isn't permitted to do what he does best.

What you're asking for is playbook knowledge, which I'd love to see but that would be its own feature independent of this one.

I agree, but I think what this guy really wants is someone that doesn't fit a scheme to not perform as well as someone that does. Schemes have been in the game for a while now, and as far as I can tell, it really doesn't effect performance on the field. It just effects overall for assistance in roster management.


But in theory, I agree with everything you said.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:41 PM   #50
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How is it realistic that a player is somehow worse just because he's in a system that doesn't fit him? He's not worse, he just doesn't fit. What you're asking for is UNrealistic and redundant.

If I take over San Francisco and switch to a power run scheme, Jarrick McKinnon isn't gonna suddenly be a worse back... but he's going to perform worse because I'm running him on ISO all the time. That IS realistic. Having him suddenly forget how to juke is not. Dez Bryant isn't gonna forget how to run a dig if he signs with a team that doesn't run many digs, he's just not going to be used to his greatest potential if he isn't permitted to do what he does best.

What you're asking for is playbook knowledge, which I'd love to see but that would be its own feature independent of this one.
Their awareness should at least be worse. I agree that most if not all physical attributes should not be worse. If a RB has been running stretch all his life and then switches to iso then at least initially, his ability to find the hole would clearly be worse. Keys to look for an upcoming hole are different like LBs over running and/or patiently slowing down to manuever tacklers into blocks.

Not knowing the playbook is another thing but even knowing the playbook does not mean you will be any good at running iso all of a sudden. That is one (of many) reason why so many guys bust. Everyone knows their physical attributes but have no idea if they can adapt to the scheme.



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I agree, but I think what this guy really wants is someone that doesn't fit a scheme to not perform as well as someone that does. Schemes have been in the game for a while now, and as far as I can tell, it really doesn't effect performance on the field. It just effects overall for assistance in roster management.


But in theory, I agree with everything you said.
That’s exactly what this system does. Someone who DOESNT fit isn’t going to perform as good as someone who DOES.

The reason being that the guy that fits progresses quicker and gets bonus.

The guy who doesn’t develops slower and gets no bonus.

He said they completely revamped schemes so they’re not what has been in the game.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:46 PM   #52
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Why not have it as a modifier? Like a reduction of awareness or play recognition. After so many weeks it goes back to it's original state. For example a superstar player may need only a month while normal it would take 8 weeks. Take into account training camps and preseason. Signing someone after the preseason means having to play them with an awareness hit part of the regular season. Normal progression can still happen so it could still go up and down and would represent the cap that it can go up. Physical skills would not be impacted. Hopefully at some point this will be addressed.

Franchise sounds like it's in good hands especially if it gets tangible year to year upgrades.

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This is what i was getting at. You said it better.

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Thatís exactly what this system does. Someone who DOESNT fit isnít going to perform as good as someone who DOES.

The reason being that the guy that fits progresses quicker and gets bonus.

The guy who doesnít develops slower and gets no bonus.

He said they completely revamped schemes so theyíre not what has been in the game.
Well I don't know that "that's exactly what this system does". I'll wait and see.
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Their awareness should at least be worse. I agree that most if not all physical attributes should not be worse. If a RB has been running stretch all his life and then switches to iso then at least initially, his ability to find the hole would clearly be worse. Keys to look for an upcoming hole are different like LBs over running and/or patiently slowing down to manuever tacklers into blocks.

Not knowing the playbook is another thing but even knowing the playbook does not mean you will be any good at running iso all of a sudden. That is one (of many) reason why so many guys bust. Everyone knows their physical attributes but have no idea if they can adapt to the scheme.



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Has it been stated that they will be worse? My understanding was that they just wouldn't develop from where they were as quickly in a system that didn't suit them. I don't remember hearing that they'd be worse.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:59 PM   #55
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In theory, shouldn't they be worse anyway?

If you're running a spread and all of the routes require agility to get open and shifty route running, won't a 6'4 red zone receiver not perform as well without the stay reductions?

I realize that may not play out in practice at all positions, but I think that would be the ideal. Guys don't perform because their skillset doesn't match what they're required to do on the field.
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:21 PM   #56
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I couldn't be happier. Sure, there are things still missing or that need a serious overhaul (coaching staffs/carousel, scouting, schedules, owners mode, relocation, customization - see nba 2k), but in the end the biggest gripe was that CFM always seems to be treated like the ugly step-child MUT. Not only did they invest in CFM, they gave us Ben Heumiller. This could be the best addition that CFM has received since its inception.

I may do something I rarely do. I may be a day 1 purchase to show support for "the process".
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