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  • simbayless
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 2070

    #1

    Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

    The biggest legacy to me for years with madden is the D-line always blow up the backfield like magnets.I still see this issues in these gameplay videos.,it hurts the running game and it looks unrealistic.I hope this tread gets bump up its a very irritating issue.
  • extremeskins04
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    • Aug 2010
    • 3868

    #2
    Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

    I mean I see the Steelers defense destroying the Browns O-line like 3 straight plays, which is probably the most realistic football I've seen in a while. Baker still manages to avoid some of the sacks and run for yardage too.

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    • simbayless
      MVP
      • May 2011
      • 2070

      #3
      Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

      I'm talking just the running game only

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      • SyncereBlackout
        Rookie
        • Aug 2014
        • 828

        #4
        Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

        I have never seen this problem. It may be something else triggering it. What team, what play, what pre snap adjustments?


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        • canes21
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          • Sep 2008
          • 23037

          #5
          Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

          I think what he is referring to is that in Madden it seems you either lose 2 yards instantly on a run play or get 5 yards as compared to real life where you get 2-3 yards on average and when you get stopped it is usually stuffed at the line not the RB getting hit immediately at the handoff.



          It's a similar issue with the pocket formation and pressure on the QB in Madden where a lot of times the way a DT gets a sack is they either get by untouched from some weird play or they get stonewalled then the animation ends and they get by and run free for 4 yards and get the sack whereas in real life a DT will push the OL back into the backfield and get penetration or they'll make a nice move to get free.
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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #6
            Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

            With sliders last year I was able to get this TFL to be basically be perfect for both the User and the CPU, even on All-Madden, but yes on default settings it's an issue for a few reasons. One is that olineman don't get that initial punch into dlinemen that can get them off balance in the game that olinemen get in real life most of the time. Accompanying that are too many instasheds, followed by perfect balance and ball carrier tracking in the run game by mediocre d-linemen and linebackers. Another is the momentum of backs not being respected on tackle attempts. There are more problems as well.

            User and CPU playcalling does play a part also though. The CPU and many Users call a lot of blitzes where they are bringing 7 or 8. You're going to get blown up a lot when that happens if you don't audible out of that run. Hopefully it's been tuned for the CPU, and Users will probably have to change their style of play somewhat because of RPM or get gashed in the passing game.

            I know it doesn't help online players, but I do expect to have to tune it with sliders again though.
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            • Sucram7777
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              • Aug 2014
              • 333

              #7
              Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

              When you receive the handoff, do you immediately sprint?

              If so, something with Sprinting prematurely behind the LoS "aggros" the defense; any of them engaged with blockers will casually shed them and barrel in on the carrier.

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              • stinkubus
                MVP
                • Dec 2011
                • 1463

                #8
                Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                Originally posted by Sucram7777
                When you receive the handoff, do you immediately sprint?

                If so, something with Sprinting prematurely behind the LoS "aggros" the defense; any of them engaged with blockers will casually shed them and barrel in on the carrier.
                This. Backs with high SPD and ACC may also require you to use the left trigger to slow down while you are still behind the line of scrimmage. This mechanic was a game changer once I learned to use it because you can use the juke in combination with it to jump cut. If your dive or stretch is going to get blown up at the point of attack you can cut outside/inside, but you can't do it at full speed.

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                • SyncereBlackout
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 828

                  #9
                  Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                  Originally posted by canes21
                  I think what he is referring to is that in Madden it seems you either lose 2 yards instantly on a run play or get 5 yards as compared to real life where you get 2-3 yards on average and when you get stopped it is usually stuffed at the line not the RB getting hit immediately at the handoff.



                  It's a similar issue with the pocket formation and pressure on the QB in Madden where a lot of times the way a DT gets a sack is they either get by untouched from some weird play or they get stonewalled then the animation ends and they get by and run free for 4 yards and get the sack whereas in real life a DT will push the OL back into the backfield and get penetration or they'll make a nice move to get free.


                  I understand, yet I’ve still never seen it personally. 8 years in an online CFM and 5 years in an offline. As others noted it may be triggered by one or more user inputs rather than something in the game.


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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 23037

                    #10
                    Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                    Originally posted by SyncereBlackout
                    I understand, yet I’ve still never seen it personally. 8 years in an online CFM and 5 years in an offline. As others noted it may be triggered by one or more user inputs rather than something in the game.


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                    To be fair, I haven't bought a Madden since 16. It was a problem in that game, it's been a legacy issue with the series for as long as I can remember. It may be fixed now, I was just taking a shot at what he may have meant for the topic to be about.
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                    • SyncereBlackout
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 828

                      #11
                      Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                      Originally posted by canes21
                      To be fair, I haven't bought a Madden since 16. It was a problem in that game, it's been a legacy issue with the series for as long as I can remember. It may be fixed now, I was just taking a shot at what he may have meant for the topic to be about.


                      Understood. No worries. I have been wrong before but I’d OfferUp any of my archived twitch games to show it’s not an issue now. If it is for OP then maybe it’s the premature sprinting thing that’s causing it.


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                      • bigrice25
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 257

                        #12
                        Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                        I think the OP is referring to the way Block Sheds work in Madden. IRL, if a defender blows up a play in the backfield, he is usually Bullrushing an Olineman.... In madden, your running then suddenly a defender will insta-shed a block and your done....

                        I think this is what he is referring to, but I could be wrong.

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                        • Americas Team
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1282

                          #13
                          Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                          Originally posted by SyncereBlackout
                          I understand, yet I’ve still never seen it personally. 8 years in an online CFM and 5 years in an offline. As others noted it may be triggered by one or more user inputs rather than something in the game.


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                          Seems like you don't know what we're talking about it's a common issue that happens multiple times every game.
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                          • jfsolo
                            Live Action, please?
                            • May 2003
                            • 12965

                            #14
                            Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                            Originally posted by bigrice25
                            I think the OP is referring to the way Block Sheds work in Madden. IRL, if a defender blows up a play in the backfield, he is usually Bullrushing an Olineman.... In madden, your running then suddenly a defender will insta-shed a block and your done....

                            I think this is what he is referring to, but I could be wrong.
                            Yep, that is one of the problems. Running is what I do best in Madden, and I am saying that the issues with players getting blow up in the backfield are independent of holding down the sprint button behind the line of scrimmage(which I don't do)
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                            • SyncereBlackout
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 828

                              #15
                              Re: Blowing up the backfield needs to be addressed!

                              Originally posted by Americas Team
                              Seems like you don't know what we're talking about it's a common issue that happens multiple times every game.


                              I see. I acknowledge I’m not always right, and often wrong. Could you help me understand? Please provide an example of it happening? (Time stamp)

                              Here’s an archived twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/255190627 of my gameplay. I’m sure you wouldn’t need to watch more than a few minutes since it’s so common.

                              Thanks for your help



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