Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

[extremeskins04]

Explains my exact feelings. The animations and motions are a problem.

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[SincerelYourz]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

Explains my exact feelings. The animations and motions are a problem.

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those players are clearly fatigued

[extremeskins04]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

those players are clearly fatigued

Except it's happening with all QB's, WR's, RB's on the user side. Are they all fatigued all the time?

[tommycoa]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

Except it's happening with all QB's, WR's, RB's on the user side. Are they all fatigued all the time?

He may have 0’d out fatigue to make the game look intentionally bad or something. Haven’t played the game, but seen tons of video, this is the first I’ve seen of this.

The Big Ben scramble play made sense, he should be chased down. The problem with 18 was Big Ben would have 9 runs for 60 yards a game.

Edit:
Thought about this and it looks like the players did in 18 after a patch when they would return all kick returns no matter how deep they caught the kick in the endzone and they barreled out of the endzone for short 10-15 yard returns.

I was the one that figured out that having the Takes Hits set to Always was causing the problem. This looks like that. Since this is MUT, i wonder if the Always trait is Always on so the MUT players don’t have fumbles.

[capa]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

The thing about Moody is he seems to find things (animations, gameplay) that no one else sees for the most part. He is renown for being anti-Madden although he will boast that that is just not true. Almost every video he produces is a knock on the game in one way or the other, yet he says he only does it so the game can improve which I just do not agree with. He does seem to be biased.

I also think he is changing something in traits, sliders, settings to get some of the animations to show up. Maybe he is...maybe he isn't. Don't get me wrong...many are legit and others run into them as well. But if you go by his videos he makes it seem like these things happen all the time...and they just don't.

I take everything he says with a big grain of salt. he does seem to have an agenda although he positions it as wanting to make the game better.

C

[extremeskins04]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

The thing about Moody is he seems to find things (animations, gameplay) that no one else sees for the most part. He is renown for being anti-Madden although he will boast that that is just not true. Almost every video he produces is a knock on the game in one way or the other, yet he says he only does it so the game can improve which I just do not agree with. He does seem to be biased.

I also think he is changing something in traits, sliders, settings to get some of the animations to show up. Maybe he is...maybe he isn't. Don't get me wrong...many are legit and others run into them as well. But if you go by his videos he makes it seem like these things happen all the time...and they just don't.

I take everything he says with a big grain of salt. he does seem to have an agenda although he positions it as wanting to make the game better.

C

He's not wrong though. I've had the game since the Origin Access Premier hit and the first thing I noticed was the running animations and locomotions were very awkward and slow compared to the CPU.

Also, when you play cpu v cpu games, it's fine and both sides run great.

[Redog156]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

Madden defenders are and have for years been like heat-seeking missiles. The defenders are moving at a different speed than you are able to when closing down on a ball carrier. One of the OS mentioned it in the roundtable impressions.

[teeteegardner]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

i think the last part made the most sense. Im betting the design choice was to have RPM on the user controlled player only.. which totally kills the game from a CPU point of view. a user vs user game wouldn't produce as much as this obviously.

[RyanMoody21]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

The thing about Moody is he seems to find things (animations, gameplay) that no one else sees for the most part. He is renown for being anti-Madden although he will boast that that is just not true. Almost every video he produces is a knock on the game in one way or the other, yet he says he only does it so the game can improve which I just do not agree with. He does seem to be biased.

I also think he is changing something in traits, sliders, settings to get some of the animations to show up. Maybe he is...maybe he isn't. Don't get me wrong...many are legit and others run into them as well. But if you go by his videos he makes it seem like these things happen all the time...and they just don't.

I take everything he says with a big grain of salt. he does seem to have an agenda although he positions it as wanting to make the game better.

C

I love this thought process, first it was fatigued players (even though I'm showing you the first drive after a kick off).

Then it was I adjusted the sliders.

Now I'm just editing players traits.

Yup, guess I'm the one bias.

Edit. 7 examples in 4 minutes. I'm actually shocked that rather than look at what's shown, the first line of thinking is "the game was manipulated to do that". So when is it ok for players to freeze on kick returns, when is it fair to adjust running motions (to spite RPM) and create tackles?

Lastly, how logical is it that I spent 6 years "creating footage" and ANY game company attaches themselves to me. I'd be the biggest liability in the industry and most likely have zero followers.

The game has issues, if it happens once or 100 times it still needs resolved. A huge difference between a one off glitch, which I'll rarely cover, and actual gameplay issues.

[goillini03]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

I think my biggest issue with CPU defenders is that if they took the proper line, I could understand being caught. It feel like when they take a bad angle of pursuit, they turn on the speed burst to compensate.

[extremeskins04]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

If people would just try ONE cpu v cpu game and the immediately play a game with you controlling the players, you would see what Ryan Moody is referring to. It's so obvious there's a problem.

Try it. Do a cpu v cpu game and you'll see some amazing gameplay especially if you do Default Sliders on ROOKIE. Trust me. Then when you go back to the normal way of playing you'll be frustrated. (And no it's not about being "good at the game"...there's animation and locomotion issues)

[roadman]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

If people would just try ONE cpu v cpu game and the immediately play a game with you controlling the players, you would see what Ryan Moody is referring to. It's so obvious there's a problem.

Try it. Do a cpu v cpu game and you'll see some amazing gameplay especially if you do Default Sliders on ROOKIE. Trust me. Then when you go back to the normal way of playing you'll be frustrated. (And no it's not about being "good at the game"...there's animation and locomotion issues)

I don't disagree with you, but there are some good things the slider makers do in this forum that mitigate or lessen these issues a bit until a title update is forthcoming.

[RyanMoody21]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

I don't disagree with you, but there are some good things the slider makers do in this forum that mitigate or lessen these issues a bit until a title update is forthcoming.

Here's s what I've always wondered. Sliders can't fix programming, they don't actually change what's going on in the background. It may change the sky from blue to green BUT the sky is still present.

So while I don't doubt you that sliders may improve the games performance, why has EA never adopted it out of the box. More so with the ability to share those sliders sets in years past.

Why would they not look into what the user is attempting to correct and see what can be done from a coding standpoint?

So to a degree, you are admitting the game is below standard until the user actually manipulates the game to play better. Oddly enough I just got accused of maniputing the game myself, trying to get it improved.

[roadman]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

Here's s what I've always wondered. Sliders can't fix programming, they don't actually change what's going on in the background. It may change the sky from blue to green BUT the sky is still present.

So while I don't doubt you that sliders may improve the games performance, why has EA never adopted it out of the box. More so with the ability to share those sliders sets in years past.

Why would they not look into what the user is attempting to correct and see what can be done from a coding standpoint?

So to a degree, you are admitting the game is below standard until the user actually manipulates the game to play better. Oddly enough I just got accused of maniputing the game myself, trying to get it improved.

I pretty much agree with this.

No way does sliders take away the whole issue, it lessens the eyesores or CPU running issue, so, to speak.

There are sliders theories out there that if you do this to one slider, be careful, you might be hurting another part of the game.

I just feel there are miles and miles of coding with those sliders in Madden and peeling it apart or away is a quagmire. I would love for one day they come out sliders that work they way they need to work and a detailed description of all of them.

I will say that there isn't a sports game out there, since the invention of sliders in sports games, that I haven't tweaked or fudged around with to get the game to play the way I want it to play.

[capa]

Re: Madden 19 Gameplay Issues in a 3 minute video

Glad to see that we are all pointing towards this being probably the best Madden released in over 10 years. Even a few staunch critics seem to be getting on board and dropping their agenda...at least for the time being.

As roadman said, sliders are there for a reason...every sport game has them and they can correct a plethora of issues if you know what you are doing. They also can lead you down a rabbit hole which can take weeks to climb out of.

Many "issues" are still in the game most likely because of the complexity of removing, or the fact that for whatever reasons, they don't make the priority list year to year. Many are not game breakers and can/should be overlooked. Whenever you put a game under a microscope, flaws are found. Same goes for perhaps the greatest sports game ever - The Show. Issues like clipping, ball physics, bunting, and others continue to rear their head year to year. If you are unwilling to tinker with sliders and settings you are doing yourself a disservice, in my opinion.

All we can hope for is that the publishers eventually find the resources, time, and money to correct every "major" issue that gets under someone's skin. Until then, we undoubtedly will see the same complaints and videos year to year (and sometimes week to week).

C