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  • novadolla
    Pro
    • Sep 2010
    • 551

    #1

    WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

    Seems like everytime i throw a deep jump ball, no matter who the WR is, it has a higher chance being picked off by the DB than it being incomplete. The DBs attacks the ball while the WR just fades away from the catch. This os quite annoying
  • paulb1976
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 76

    #2
    Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

    Originally posted by novadolla
    Seems like everytime i throw a deep jump ball, no matter who the WR is, it has a higher chance being picked off by the DB than it being incomplete. The DBs attacks the ball while the WR just fades away from the catch. This os quite annoying
    I had the same experience today in a game. Multiple times to different receivers, the corner aggressively played the ball while the receivers just run through the route. It reminded me of Madden 15, that issue was chronic in 15. Really killed the game.

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    • Cato06
      Rookie
      • Sep 2016
      • 288

      #3
      Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

      I think they’re forcing us to try and take control of the receiver and make the catch. I used to throw and just let the cpu do the work cause I’m old school, but that’s not really how the game is supposed to be played now. Also I noticed if you use the directional passing when hucking it up downfield, it helps keeping the DB away from the ball.

      However I agree. They should have it be a setting. Either you choose full control over receivers or have the AI have full control over WR animations.


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      • YaBarber
        Rookie
        • Dec 2017
        • 351

        #4
        Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

        While i understand the need to please the competitive crowd and give users all the control, this just doesn’t sit well with me. I play in a no switch/no user catch league because we prefer ratings to actually play a role in our games over user “skill” and by forcing users to do literally everything even catch the ball it ruins the experience for us. I can’t throw a fade because the WR will just keep running and not even attempt to high point the ball and instead the DB does it for him for an easy pick almost every time.

        Just once I would like for EA to focus on staying true to their word and not fully support one style of gameplay when they literally implemented 3 separate modes so that we all could have our own tailored experiences. I’m not surprised that the separation was mostly cosmetic but still, disappointing like usual.
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        • seasprite
          Phenom
          • Jul 2008
          • 8984

          #5
          Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

          I've had some success with goalline fades. I have normally been throwing to big receivers like Ashlon. Doesn't work every time which is realistic, but I have seen a few times my big WR fighting for the ball and coming down with it.......not usering the WR

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          • Earl1963
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 1985

            #6
            Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

            User catching is the only way I have ever played Madden, more fun that way.
            Megatron

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            • mattm7x
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 157

              #7
              Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

              50/50 aggressive catches have been ok for me. My issue has been with RAC catches. Too many times the ball will hit my receiver in the shoulder pads and he doesn't react til after the ball is almost to the ground. He will just do a lunging animation....

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              • King Gro23
                MVP
                • Jan 2008
                • 2548

                #8
                Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                Originally posted by paulb1976
                I had the same experience today in a game. Multiple times to different receivers, the corner aggressively played the ball while the receivers just run through the route. It reminded me of Madden 15, that issue was chronic in 15. Really killed the game.


                This.... my number one issue on some routes are the WR literally running through routes taking themselves out of positions. Yea the cornerback has its advantages but the lack of control of a wide receiver while ball is in air is what bothers me.. trying to stop a receiver on a fade or streak is similar to attempting to stop a high speed train


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                • edaddy
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2848

                  #9
                  Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                  Originally posted by Cato06
                  I think they’re forcing us to try and take control of the receiver and make the catch. I used to throw and just let the cpu do the work cause I’m old school, but that’s not really how the game is supposed to be played now. Also I noticed if you use the directional passing when hucking it up downfield, it helps keeping the DB away from the ball.

                  However I agree. They should have it be a setting. Either you choose full control over receivers or have the AI have full control over WR animations.


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                  Great post I am old school to and I never user controlled because I wanted the ratings to take place...Its clearly suited for the competitive crowd which is why PI is never called..I have just had to reteach myself but I agree I think sim setting should encompass that...
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                  • fripperiffic
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 104

                    #10
                    Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                    Because of the RAC swerve last year on high point passes, they have taken away the ability of a WR to RAC catch a high point pass. You have to use aggressive catch.

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                    • m1ke_nyc
                      10
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 3243

                      #11
                      Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                      Just wanted to add my name and say yes I've experienced this as well. Too many times I've noticed the RAC catch comes up and the WR just runs right out of the play while the DB goes after the ball. Like others have said just gonna have to start user controlling the catches.
                      It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #12
                        Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                        This part of the game has been the most frustrating for me. It's really bad and I hope it gets patched.

                        This is such a great game overall for the first time in a long time but I shouldn't be afraid to throw into a one on one matchup as I've trained myself not to do.

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                        • novadolla
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 551

                          #13
                          Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                          Folks are saying to user catch. Even when you user aggressive catch the WR does not attack the ball even half as aggressively as the DB does. If i was to throw 10 deep balls to mike evans vs some random low overall CB, the DB would intercept the ball probably 9 times out of the 10. Not saying i want it to be a catch all the time, however a few incompletion would be nice. Seems like if the pass is on target then its a pick. Only chance of it not being a pick is if its over thrown

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #14
                            Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                            Originally posted by novadolla
                            Folks are saying to user catch. Even when you user aggressive catch the WR does not attack the ball even half as aggressively as the DB does. If i was to throw 10 deep balls to mike evans vs some random low overall CB, the DB would intercept the ball probably 9 times out of the 10. Not saying i want it to be a catch all the time, however a few incompletion would be nice. Seems like if the pass is on target then its a pick. Only chance of it not being a pick is if its over thrown
                            Yea, I've thrown it up a couple times in one on one situations not really expecting a completion but hoping for an effort from my WR and a pass breakup at worst only to see my WR not do a thing.

                            Also, it can be said it's on me and I'll say okay, but I'm not going to user catch. It's never been something I've done and don't really care to start now.

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                            • paulb1976
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 76

                              #15
                              Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                              I'm sure during the trial leading up to the official release the wr's would go after the ball more aggressively. I think one of the last 2 patches has screwed this up. Hopefully it is fixed soon.

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