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Old 08-21-2018, 04:53 PM   #65
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Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

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1. I tried that it makes no difference.

2. That is realistic, the best wide receivers in the league like Antonio Brown for example, burn secondaries on a regular basis. The only time that they don’t it when they play the two or three best defenses in the league, like Houston a couple of years ago.


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Let me put this in perspective for you. Out of AB's 163 targets in 2017, 43 of them were deep routes. That's roughly 26 percent. 2.7 a game. Out of those 43 deep route targets, he caught 14. That's 32 percent. Less than one per game. So really, if you're getting more than one per game, you're playing at a higher level with the deep ball than AB.

Maybe you'll say AB had an off year with the deep ball. Okay. Tyreek Hill (the best deep threat in football) had 24 deep route targets on 105 targets. That's 23 percent of his targets. He caught roughly 13 of those. 54.2 percent, less
than 1 per game.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...at-wrs-of-2017

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...H/HillTy00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BrowAn04.htm

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...ball-receivers

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Old 08-21-2018, 05:29 PM   #66
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Since there are no 99 SPD, 99 ACC players on the stock rosters you guys are giving them more of a response than they deserve, but kudos for the references anyway.
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Since there are no 99 SPD, 99 ACC players on the stock rosters you guys are giving them more of a response than they deserve, but kudos for the references anyway.
If my receiver has a higher speed than your DB and I have a step or two on him... how can you justify that he can catch up?
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Even for users this doesn't work. I click on and press Y and they continue running their route or attempt a catch in stride or something without jumping. The DBs have so many animations to get a pick. The WRs have no animations for a catch unless they're wide open.


I must say when I high point the ball for shorter throws I see the jump ball animation on deeper routes I don’t get it.


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If my receiver has a higher speed than your DB and I have a step or two on him... how can you justify that he can catch up?
A poor throw would be the most likely in game culprit.
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If my receiver has a higher speed than your DB and I have a step or two on him... how can you justify that he can catch up?
What's the DBs coverage ratings? His acceleration? Whats the equation for a WR to win a route? What WR is so much faster than what CB?
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What's the DBs coverage ratings? His acceleration? Whats the equation for a WR to win a route? What WR is so much faster than what CB?
I can see you are not capable of having this discussion, but i'll try again.

A fly route and a perfectly thrown ball is assumed here.

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If I have a speed of 85 and you have a speed of 75 and I have 2 steps on you, should it be possible for you to catch up to me?
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I can see you are not capable of having this discussion, but i'll try again.

A fly route and a perfectly thrown ball is assumed here.

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If I have a speed of 85 and you have a speed of 75 and I have 2 steps on you, should it be possible for you to catch up to me?
Please produce video of a CB with -10 SPD catching up because I want to see the perfectly thrown pass that produces that result. I've been playing constantly since I got the game and I've yet to see anything remotely close to that.
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