Madden please dont mess with the falling forward animation

[83evans]

Madden please dont fix the falling forward animation. This isnt bad, what is bad is gronkowski getting pushed back when running with full momentum vs a DB. This seems to be the alternative and i truly dont trust that madden will fix this without over using the pick up and carry tackle* animation to overide the falling forward one. I finally feel like tackling is realistic, on plays that a defender has better momentum and the running back doesnt, all it looks like is a player fighting, not some random animation creating a unrealistic outcome. I really hated seeing madden is going to fix this. why cant they focus on DBs stopping in the endzone, or the fact that all speeds except normal cause a glitch, or that some screens end up in freezing. Its so apparently pure laziness. the last 5 maddens, every running back ive had subtract 30 from their spin rating just so players arent attempting it 10 times a game (strait up may of been an under exageration). The fact that i have to do this just shows how lazy they truly are

[stinkubus]

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Yeah, the change is generally positive. Hopefully it can be toned down without being completely eliminated.

On the user front you can get more secure tackles by strafing up and not holding the tackle button until you get close. Tackle buttons work just like ball hawk.

You could hold A (Xbox) for conservative tackle while you are running and once in range you would stop the ball carrier dead no matter what the context of the tackle was.

Now if you are on the tackle button too early you get the bad animation and the ball carrier will run through a weak attempt.

[asantead22]

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It has to be fixed to a balance between both. Before the glitch powerful running backs were stopped on a dime by small corners which is not realistic, however now small RBs can power thru the largest DL. Bottom Line, It clearly shows no physics at all. Its all obsolete animations!!! EA need to change their name to “ Can’t do right”!


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[howboutdat]

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While i agree too often before bigger guys with momentum would get knocked backwards too easily . This is just the opposite pole of that . Neither are good and im quite frankly tired of tackling someone in the backfield now for them to still gain 2 yards. Or the guy i tackle somehow picks up 4 yards when he should have clearly been stopped .

It needs fixing. However what it needs is real physics instead of their faked physics. They are using some patent they have that is supposed to give the feeling of physics without actually using a real physics engine. Kinetic Energy Smoother . <---This is the entire problem with so much of this game . But they just keep on trying to fake it instead of digging in with a real physics engine.

[edgevoice]

Re: Madden please dont mess with the falling forward animation

Madden please dont fix the falling forward animation. This isnt bad, what is bad is gronkowski getting pushed back when running with full momentum vs a DB. This seems to be the alternative and i truly dont trust that madden will fix this without over using the pick up and carry tackle* animation to overide the falling forward one. I finally feel like tackling is realistic, on plays that a defender has better momentum and the running back doesnt, all it looks like is a player fighting, not some random animation creating a unrealistic outcome. I really hated seeing madden is going to fix this. why cant they focus on DBs stopping in the endzone, or the fact that all speeds except normal cause a glitch, or that some screens end up in freezing. Its so apparently pure laziness. the last 5 maddens, every running back ive had subtract 30 from their spin rating just so players arent attempting it 10 times a game (strait up may of been an under exageration). The fact that i have to do this just shows how lazy they truly are

The falling forward animation does not tell the story of what the problem actually is. In fact, there are many instances when that should be the result. The real problem is that this animation triggers when it makes no sense to actually do so. For instance, just as I was about to sack the QB on an "a gap blitz", the QB instantaneously went from hitting his back step to bulldozing my defender 3 yards forward. In a slowed down replay, I witnessed my defender appear to hit an invisible force field and slightly step back before the collision took place. The result of these types of outcomes look beyond ridiculous to me. Having said that, pre-patch it also looked beyond ridiculous to be able to simply get one hand on a RB accelerating through a hole and drop him like a bag of rocks.

The falling forward animation should not be eliminated, but the tackling needs to be addressed so that the outcome is at least somewhat believable.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

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I would prefer if they made it realistic. Sometimes fall forward, sometimes not, depending upon momentum.

[Shosum13]

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I would prefer if they made it realistic. Sometimes fall forward, sometimes not, depending upon momentum.

Yea this is getting ridiculous, I just had a game where I sacked the QB as he was running backwards away from the pressure but when I made the hit he somehow pushed FORWARD for 5 yards. I know it was crazy before how even small defenders would stop bigger backs in their tracks but how did they test this before rolling out the patch and go "yup that's the fix right there."

[PhillyPhanatic14]

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lol your trippin dude. You clearly haven't played with this patch or watched anyone that's played with it if you want it to stay.

[Rayzaa]

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Yea this is getting ridiculous, I just had a game where I sacked the QB as he was running backwards away from the pressure but when I made the hit he somehow pushed FORWARD for 5 yards. I know it was crazy before how even small defenders would stop bigger backs in their tracks but how did they test this before rolling out the patch and go "yup that's the fix right there."

Today Baker Mayfield steam rolled my LB twice on a scramble for and extra 3-4 yards. QBs driving defensive players back lol

[Shosum13]

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Today Baker Mayfield steam rolled my LB twice on a scramble for and extra 3-4 yards. QBs driving defensive players back lol

Oh yea, I lost a game online the other day because my opponents QB trucked a LB then was able to to push a DT and another LB 3 more yards in to the endzone. This is crazy, I know it needed to be tuned because smaller defenders would easily stop ball carriers in their tracks but this is not the fix. At the same time I don't know if I want them to fix this because I'm scared of what they will break with the next "fix." Its like every patch is a game of what will they break next.

[asantead22]

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It’s been very frustrating in my online franchise! I played hellacious defense and then my friend falls forward and picks up 6-7 yds. The other major problem with this game is the amount of interceptions!!!! Way too many and the total control passing is really horrible!!


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[asantead22]

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How long will it take them to fix this issue? It amazes me they are quick to charge for MUT but can’t fix a problem they created! EA never seize to amaze me!!!!!


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[roadman]

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Title Update came out 11 days, ago, it takes 10-14 days for a title update to become certified through the testing and certification process after it leaves EA's hands.

I'm guessing another 7 to 14 days to be on the safe side.

[roadman]

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Looks like my timing was impeccable:

Hi Madden Community,
We wanted to give you all a quick update on the falling forward bug that players have been experiencing since the February Title Update.
This is a top priority for the team and we're actively working on a fix for the problem. We are targeting an update in the second half of next week and will provide updates when we have more concrete details.
The Madden Team

I'm sure they will continue to update because now there is a target date and if that target date is passed without a fix, watch out for the interwebs.

[booker21]

Re: Madden please dont mess with the falling forward animation

Looks like my timing was impeccable:

Hi Madden Community,
We wanted to give you all a quick update on the falling forward bug that players have been experiencing since the February Title Update.
This is a top priority for the team and we're actively working on a fix for the problem. We are targeting an update in the second half of next week and will provide updates when we have more concrete details.
The Madden Team

I'm sure they will continue to update because now there is a target date and if that target date is passed without a fix, watch out for the interwebs.

Where did you read this? i want to follow that guy

about the topic i agree with most here. The problem is that the game is based on scripted animations and has no momentum/physics involved anymore. Until they add physics back to the game this will be an issue. Momentum has no part on the game. After or before patch.

small DB stone wall a Big RB or small RB falling forward against DL without momentum. Nobody said much about it but before the patch your RB can be running and from behind they get wrap tackle and move it backwards. that was awful to see as well. Hopefully EA goes back to physics.