Madden 21 Gameplay Improvements: What the Gridiron Notes Mentioned and Left Out

[Aestis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kanobi

I think equally adverse to the progress of the game and how the "execs" prioritize features is the defense of gameplay aspects that are two to three years old in Madden but 13-18 years old in terms of football video games on consoles.

Maybe, but one happens like 100x more often here than the other.

[blood9585]

Im hoping QBs cant hitstick and small RBs cant truck DTs..*

[stinkubus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Aestis

Maybe, but one happens like 100x more often here than the other.

No one defended EA in that exchange. All that happened is someone got called out for being FOS and instead of taking it on the chin they try to shift the goal posts instead.

[Aestis]

Quote: Originally Posted by stinkubus

No one defended EA in that exchange. All that happened is someone got called out for being FOS and instead of taking it on the chin they try to shift the goal posts instead.

Yes it would be tough to find many examples here of people actually defending EA or saying they've done a great job with Madden overall, but unfortunately that's the straw man we're competing against whenever the negativity is overwhelming to the point of being abjectly false.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Milticket

Excellent post here Aestis and I was thinking about talking about the same thing in a post earlier today, but you definitely nailed it perfectly..100%. Anyone that's actually played Madden every yr knows that isn't true in regards to game play not changing.

things are definitely added year to year or how could sell the iteration. so you're right that game isnt the "same".



what does say the same though are those game play legacy issues we come to know and love.

[Darth Aegis]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

things are definitely added year to year or how could sell the iteration. so you're right that game isnt the "same". what does say the same though are those game play legacy issues we come to know and love.

Those types of fixes aren't marketable & hard to get the green light from the top at EA. Legacy issues are a different conversation.

[Nza]

Quote: Originally Posted by Aestis

The worst part about posts like his, and they're all over this forum, is that by disparaging EA constantly for stuff that is demonstrably false, it undermines the legitimate criticism, of which there is of course plenty. Same as when I see people say, oh gameplay is the same every year. I mean that's not even remotely true, and the only way someone could believe that is if they weren't aware of the changes (case in point on reach tackles) or didn't understand them (like much of the coverage upgrades) or didn't care about them. Which inadvertently, if I were an EA exec, would only reinforce to me that gameplay changes focused on realism don't matter. Because so many of the very folks who supposedly care about it, aren't even aware of it.

Excellent point. I think a problem though is there is just no coherent long term goal with gameplay in Madden, that I can see. They didn't come together in 2015 and decide, in 5 years, we want the gameplay to look like this *points to amazing proof of concept demo*. Not graphics, I mean gameplay. At least, if there is something like this, it hasn't been expressed to the fans/consumers.

If there was something like this, and they were showing clear gains towards the goal year in and year out, attitudes would be a lot different, I feel. Right now, it seems Madden's gameplay is a concoction of loosely related yearly changes that seem, if anything, reactionary to issues they introduced in a recent previous iteration or just re-freshed ways of doing the same thing slightly differently with similar results. There are precious few real honest enhancements.

There doesn't seem to be a plan beyond the current year, and it shows IMO.

[jerwoods]

i am tried when u throw a deep ball the ball goes 10 feet in the air