OS Roundtable: #FixMaddenFranchise and Reaction to Face of Franchise Improvements in Madden 21

[ChaseB]

With the Gridiron Notes yesterday detailing Face of the Franchise and "classic" Franchise, the rubber finally...

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[Dblock1111]

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Nice to see this wrap up with everyone pretty much on the same page. Sad state of affairs for us Franchise Faithful...

#FixMaddenFranchise

[GoJags904]

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Good read.

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[TheShizNo1]

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Nice job, fellas.

I don't understand why EA just doesn't come out and say that a franchise mode isn't a priority for them.


EDIT: I also fully agree with Bob....it's time for people to start supporting other avenues of "sim" football. I've been supporting Maximum Football's patreon for a couple years, now. I'm about to start supporting Axis football as well. I still don't think franchise players "boycotting" Madden will matter to EA, but supporting developers that share a similar vision to us means we'll get something closer to what we want as opposed to what we've been given with Madden. I encourage everyone that's upset that aren't buying Madden to put that money towards other developers.

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[cooper417]

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Nice job, fellas.

I don't understand why EA just doesn't come out and say that a franchise mode isn't a priority for them.

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Because they count Face of Franchise as "franchise mode." But yeah, they made it pretty clear they don't care about "classic" franchise.

[Executor]

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Nice job, fellas.

I don't understand why EA just doesn't come out and say that a franchise mode isn't a priority for them.

Two words: arrogance and contempt.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

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Very well put. Glad you guys are using the platform to speak out. What EA is doing is garbage and it's about time they got some heat for it. I'm not expecting anything like this, but Battlefront II got the most dev backlash of all time. A few years later it was a (relatively) mtx-free game that delivered on nearly everything fans wanted at the start.



EA has the model for how to care about customers right in their own company. They just have to decide to care more about their players and their dignity as the sole holders of the exclusive license when it comes to Madden.

[nolesfan69]

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Very disappointed with Madden 21 not investing time with franchise. I'm still gonna buy the game this year. I have been buying this franchise since 1990, and never missed a game. Maybe the game can be delayed a few months to improve franchise. But I doubt they will happen.

[Sparkles]

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Very disappointed with Madden 21 not investing time with franchise. I'm still gonna buy the game this year. I have been buying this franchise since 1990, and never missed a game. Maybe the game can be delayed a few months to improve franchise. But I doubt they will happen.

May I ask what warrants a purchase for you then?

(Not asking to be an a**hole, just trying understand why people in the Franchise threads, who are disappointed, say they still wanna buy)

[bears1387]

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I've bought Madden every year since it's existence, and as aggravated as I get every year with their nonsense, I still buy it because it's the only game out there. This is shaping up to be the first year I won't...

I always like Franchise mode, never touched MUT or any of that other stuff, never interested me. The question I've been yelling for years is if you don't want to put resources into Franchise and dance around it with minuscule updates every year, can we AT THE VERY LEAST have a regular season mode???

One thing I used to do was start a Franchise with 32 teams and play games on a weekly basis. Would it be so much to ask to simply have a season mode back? 2K does this and I love it for that reason. I don't need to play 26 seasons into a Franchise, I just want to play a season that keeps stats with current rosters...and truthfully, all I've played the past how many years since they started picking apart Franchise is Play Now.

[JoshC1977]

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Frankly speaking, it's clear that EA's marketing folks have the same issue that also plagues many gamers; a distinct and palpable lack of patience.

Longshot flops, oh wait, let's focus more on franchise, oh wait, let's focus on player career modes again. It's a pure lack of confidence in their brand and this constant wavering back and forth in lieu of really embracing Madden for what it is and building upon it. To use a sports analogy, they're trying too hard to smack a HR every at-bat and they are striking out a LOT. I can only imagine how obnoxious that has to be for the development team to be given new marching orders every time out. (We've seen similar paradigm shifts in gameplay and graphical engines)

You buy 2k, you know exactly what you're getting, MyPlayer, MyTeam, and MyLeague (with MyGM for good measure). Those modes are constant and (for better and worse) don't change all that much aside from the real details. To continue that analogy, 2k is hitting a lot of singles, which is helping "the team" score more runs - just at a slow pace. I'm not a particular fan of that series (particularly of their franchise offerings), but can fully acknowledge that they have been much more consistent.

If Madden marketing folks were more patient and built year after year on what they have - we'd be in a much better spot.

[milkmanbonzai]

As a Franchise gamer among all the sports sims, I understand the anguish.  But Madden 20 was the third-best selling game of 2019 and MUT brings in untold riches. Internally, EA feels no incentive to change course with that kind of financial success, and it's gonna take more than disenfranchised Franchise (heh) players to pull support to make any change of focus happen as long as MUT whales pour insane money into its "games as a service" modes. It is what is at this point.

[wolfsjetta12]

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As most of you have said, I to have bought Madden for at least close to 30 years straight. This is the last straw for this sim/franchise community. Enough must really be enough this time. We have had to put up with too much crap the last 10 or so years. I agree and stand with everyone who says they will not be buying this steaming pile of garbage! As paying customer and as repeat paying customers we deserve to be listened to, we deserve to see actual changes that we want, WE DESERVE A REAL FRANCHISE MODE!

[kenchun24]

Pfft. "Classic Franchise". What a slap in the face to the actual classic franchise you scumbag EA Marketing execs.

Your stupid broken Longshot/Face of The Franchise "Franchise Mode" is lame. Your waste of TWO console generations (and soon to be three, don't kid yourself frustrated Franchise die hards) with continued lack of features, depth, immersion, stats, freedom of creation AND good sim gameplay has been well documented via 15 years of data, articles, pro-Franchise/anti-MUT video reviews/essays from Youtube Channels like Angry Joe Show, That Franchise Guy, SoftdrinkTV, RyanMoody21, SimFBCritic and the vocal list goes on and on...

If us longtime Franchise players want real change we have to STOP falling for this BS from scumbag EA CEO Andrew Wilson's lootbox/microtransaction business model, Tiburon, and the WWNFL that is at fault too. DON'T BUY THIS GAME SERIES EVER AGAIN until EA puts some damn effort into a Franchise/Sim mode on the level that NBA2K STILL gives to it's fanbase EVERY year along with the
options for pay to play, lootbox, microtransaction, gambling addiction mode of yearly digital card & skin/item collecting.

Be vigilant, speak with your wallet like any disappointed consumer does for any crappy product...

DON'T preorder the silly $60 to $100 MUT versions

DON'T cave for the November 50% price drop

DON'T cave again for the 75% Summer price drop

DON'T fall for the yearly Madden hype from questionable review sites (ahem IGN ahem) media and Youtube ballwashing communities of the Madden Challenge/Bowl players and commentators.

DON'T support the MUT Card pack opening Youtube shills (sorry MUTHead.com crew, some nice peeps over there but I cannot support you anymore for anything related to that game mode while my fave Madden mode is being eradicated).


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DO use past Madden roster updates from the OS Communities to play retro Madden games with roster updates (same with retro 2K5.

DO support indy video game football via purchasing Axis and Maximum Football games, that continue to try and create/offer depth of sim for video game football just for the sake of CREATION, all this with FAR LESS monetary/manpower resources as EA Sports.

DO keep up social media awareness for the #FixMaddenFrachise campaign up this summer, fall, winter, spring etc until some kind innovative support (or open development/publishing) happens for this cause.

DO visit the several recent Madden Boycott Change dot-org petitions: most recently for Madden21, which could use way more signature support (it is is titled "Force Madden To Rehaul Franchise" by petition starter Desmond Smith which I signed and contributed too)

DO keep this up for M21 release day and continued through every Madden 21, 22, 23, 24, 2? related
media UNTIL they surrender the IP to other innovative, excited developers/publishers, or give us what we have been asking for 15 years plus already from EA in regards to the only NFL football video game available.


Change can happen, don't feel defeated by this, meet the moment. I'm 100% positive on this.

Thanks for your time Franchise Fans

[canes21]

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Nice job, fellas.

I don't understand why EA just doesn't come out and say that a franchise mode isn't a priority for them.


EDIT: I also fully agree with Bob....it's time for people to start supporting other avenues of "sim" football. I've been supporting Maximum Football's patreon for a couple years, now. I'm about to start supporting Axis football as well. I still don't think franchise players "boycotting" Madden will matter to EA, but supporting developers that share a similar vision to us means we'll get something closer to what we want as opposed to what we've been given with Madden. I encourage everyone that's upset that aren't buying Madden to put that money towards other developers.

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This. If you are truly sick of what Madden has been over the years, support the other guys. I know plenty are going to be turned off by the graphics or the gameplay being as polished, but if you really want an offline experience and can overlook that stuff and accept the small dev team type of quality, then these games are worth it. Maximum Football may not have the animation polish, the presentation quality, the graphics, etc. of NCAA 14, but it does offer a dynasty experiencenthat in year 1 rivaled the late NCAA games. It does strive to produce a balanced game on and off of the field.


Maximum and Axis both strive to satisfy the franchise gamer and I think they both do a good job of it. Again, I know plenty will immediately turn away when they see the graphics, but I personally think that these small dev teams have achieved an amazing amount of work with their incredibly small amount of resources. Maximum Football in one year gave us a Dynasty mode that rivals anything EA put out and we're getting more added to it this year like transfers and suspensions.