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  • #1
    The Kid 24
    3/13/26
    • Jan 2007
    • 14816

    Sub LB


    I’m going thru depth charts in my Franchise, I just don’t know which teams use LBs and which teams use Ss in that spot.


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  • #2
    kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27725

    Re: Sub LB


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    Is this a question or an observation? Not really sure I understand what your going for here.

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    • #3
      The Kid 24
      3/13/26
      • Jan 2007
      • 14816

      Re: Sub LB


      Re: Sub LB

      Originally posted by kehlis
      Is this a question or an observation? Not really sure I understand what your going for here.

      Sorry, I just don’t who to put in that spot... Cuz I’m sure some teams use LBs and some use teams use Ss.


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      • #4
        kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27725

        Re: Sub LB


        Re: Sub LB

        Originally posted by The Kid 24
        Sorry, I just don’t who to put in that spot... Cuz I’m sure some teams use LBs and some use teams use Ss.


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        It should be determined by the formation, not their position on the depth chart.

        If you put a safety in a middle linebacker you’re going to see them as the middle linebacker in a base package and I don’t think you want that.

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        • #5
          MasonOS95
          Rookie
          • Jan 2012
          • 526

          Re: Sub LB


          Re: Sub LB

          Originally posted by The Kid 24
          I’m going thru depth charts in my Franchise, I just don’t know which teams use LBs and which teams use Ss in that spot.


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          I generally have 1 LB and 1 SS whos usually my TE guy in those spots


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          • #6
            stinkubus
            MVP
            • Dec 2011
            • 1463

            Re: Sub LB


            Re: Sub LB

            Originally posted by The Kid 24
            Sorry, I just don’t who to put in that spot... Cuz I’m sure some teams use LBs and some use teams use Ss.


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            Football Outsiders and other outfits do personnel analysis at the end of each season. A quick Google search and you should be able to find out just how often each team uses 5 DBs vs. 6.

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            • #7
              IlluminatusUIUC
              MVP
              • Jan 2010
              • 2689

              Re: Sub LB


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              I'm not aware of any service (at least not any free service) that will show you which teams do this and how often. You're not really asking what their package tendencies are, but how often they use safeties in a linebacker role. It's a very specific question. I think you might try PFF's advanced service or watch a few games on gamepass All 22 tbh.
              Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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              • #8
                zkiesel
                Rookie
                • Jan 2010
                • 363

                Re: Sub LB


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                Madden already has a few Dime formations that put the extra safety in the box as a linebacker. Big Dime 2-3-6 comes to mind. But I don't think any team uses a safety as a linebacker on base downs, which is what the Sub LB position is.

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                • #9
                  IlluminatusUIUC
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2689

                  Re: Sub LB


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                  Originally posted by zkiesel
                  . But I don't think any team uses a safety as a linebacker on base downs, which is what the Sub LB position is.
                  Sub LB is for pass defense formations, the regular lb charts are for base downs. As an example, one move I like to do is to put Jordan Poyer as my 3rd Sub LB. Then on the 3-3-5, sometimes I will swap out Josh Norman at SS and Poyer will automatically pop up as one of the backers.
                  Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                  • #10
                    burth179
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 419

                    Re: Sub LB


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                    Yeah guys SUB LB applies to mostly Nickel and Dime formations, not base. Not sure what some of you are saying but SUB LB is subpackage LB, again nickel/dime. Someone put a spreadsheet together for Madden 20 I saw on here I'm sure it's mostly the same for 21, it lists the formations and each position. Whether it uses sub lb or mlb for example. Whether it uses rush RE or normal RE for example

                    I do think 43 wide 9 used subpackage personnel in Madden 20 but other than that it's nickel, dime, dillar
                    Last edited by burth179; 09-18-2020, 10:30 AM. Reason: Add a point

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