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Old 09-22-2020, 08:18 PM   #1
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The patch broke quarters match coverage

EA nullified pattern match of quarters against 3x1 formations to the 3 receiver side. I noticed they left this out of the patch notes. This is a big deal to those of us that play as safeties and follow the reads/rules for reading concepts. This is shady and complete laziness on EAs part. Put the damn match back into the match defense. SMH
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Old 09-23-2020, 02:12 PM   #2
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Re: The patch broke quarters match coverage

I noticed it as well. Time to start using some Cover 6.
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Old 09-23-2020, 07:02 PM   #3
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Re: The patch broke quarters match coverage

Palms seems to be somewhat fixed. It converts into a cover 2 against 2x2 formations when #2 goes out and #1 goes vertical.
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:39 PM   #4
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Re: The patch broke quarters match coverage

I play match coverage almost exclusively and Iím not seeing ďQuarters is brokenĒ literally at all?

In fact if anything I the Trips checks are working more soundly than before. In Solo (Quarters vs 3x1 with a wide-split solo receiver), the strong side quarter flat player isnít overextending himself out of the play nearly as badly as he was prior to 1.10, and in both Solo and Special the weakside inside quarter player is a bit more active and isnít drifting out into grass quite as much (he still does sometimes, to be fair).
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:47 PM   #5
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Re: The patch broke quarters match coverage

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I play match coverage almost exclusively and I’m not seeing “Quarters is broken” literally at all?

In fact if anything I the Trips checks are working more soundly than before. In Solo (Quarters vs 3x1 with a wide-split solo receiver), the strong side quarter flat player isn’t overextending himself out of the play nearly as badly as he was prior to 1.10, and in both Solo and Special the weakside inside quarter player is a bit more active and isn’t drifting out into grass quite as much (he still does sometimes, to be fair).
Agaiant 2x2 it plays correctly. Agaiant 3x1 to the trips side they don’t match, they simply play drop zone. Probably fine for most players but isn’t even comparable to its real life counterpart.

I switched to palms for now to match. It has a few more coverage rules but operates good enough if you choose the correct user safety based on formation fit and alignment.

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Old 09-24-2020, 11:50 AM   #6
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Agaiant 2x2 it plays correctly. Agaiant 3x1 to the trips side they donít match, they simply play drop zone. Probably fine for most players but isnít even comparable to its real life counterpart.

I switched to palms for now to match. It has a few more coverage rules but operates good enough if you choose the correct user safety based on formation fit and alignment.
I poked around at this specifically in practice this morning and yeah, you're right and I was wrong, this is exactly what is happening now. I think I was just having good luck with CPU play calls making it look like things were working properly.

Really hope Tiburon fixes this with haste. Madden needs more match coverages, not less.
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Old 09-24-2020, 06:34 PM   #7
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Pretty sure EA bastardized the coverage to handle route concepts from compressed formations. I wonít get started on how that entire interaction is broken but none the less, quarters was purposely broken to counter an exploit.
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Pretty sure EA bastardized the coverage to handle route concepts from compressed formations. I won’t get started on how that entire interaction is broken but none the less, quarters was purposely broken to counter an exploit.
It's also possible it wasn't done on purpose. I'm more willing to believe the underlying code is janky enough to break easily from changes. I get that we want to be angry at EA, but I don't know if going straight to "they did this on purpose" is the correct initial reaction.
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