NFL 2005 Draft Picks

[ThePebble19]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpanishFly

A list of the undrafted free agents are posted here: http://2005.otcdraft.com/content/art...0058327326.php Quarterback Gino Guidugli Cincinnati 6'3" 225 lbs. 5.00c Brock Berlin Miami FL 6'1" 221 lbs. 4.98c (Signed with Miami Dolphins) Jason White Oklahoma 6'2" 223 lbs. 4.99p Ryan Hawk Ohio 6'1" 206 lbs. 4.55p Josh Haldi Northern Illinois 6'2" 215 lbs. 4.65c Ben Daugherty Florida A&M 6'2" 222 lbs. 4.87c Timmy Chang Hawaii 6'1" 211 lbs. 5.15c (Signed with Arizona Cardinals) Running Back Kay-Jay Harris West Virginia 6'0" 236 lbs. 4.56c T.A. McLendon * North Carolina State 5'11" 235 lbs. 4.71c Walter Reyes Syracuse 5'10" 209 lbs. 4.66c DeWhitt Betterson Troy State 6'0" 218 lbs. 4.55p Bobby Purify Colorado 6'0" 212 lbs. 4.70c Fullback Kyle Eckel Navy 5'11" 240 lbs. 4.55 Zach Tuiasosopo Washington 6'2" 249 lbs. 4.88c (Signed with Pittsburgh Steelers) Paul Jefferson Penn State 6'1" 259 lbs. 4.80 Keith Joseph Texas A&M 6'2" 256 lbs. 4.69c Kevin Dudley Michigan 6'0" 238 lbs. 4.84c Will Matthews Texas 6'1" 248 lbs. 4.79p Receiver Josh Davis Marshall 6'1" 191 lbs. 4.56c Taylor Stubblefield Purdue 5'11" 172 lbs. 4.73p Charles Frederick Washington 5'11" 194 lbs. 4.76c Offensive Tackle Michael Munoz Tennessee 6'5" 306 lbs. 5.30 (Quit football altogether because he was not drafted) Guard C.J. Brooks Maryland 6'5" 309 lbs. 5.13c Jonathan Clinkscale Wisconsin 6'2" 315 lbs. 5.53c Sam Mayes Oklahoma State 6'3" 350 lbs. 5.30 Cedric Johnson Clemson 6'3" 325 lbs. 5.19 Center Ben Wilkerson LSU 6'3" 300 lbs. 5.11 Jason Respert Tennessee 6'2" 5/8 307 lbs. 5.33p Chase Johnson TCU 6'1" 293 lbs. 5.60 Keoki Fraser Arizona 6'3" 300 lbs. 5.10 Jed Paulson North Carolina State 6'2" 290 lbs. 5.10 Marcus Johnson UNLV 6'6" 320 lbs. 4.90 Tight End Garrett Cross California 6'5" 230 lbs. 4.71 Eric Knott Michigan State 6'3" 249 lbs. 4.90 Adam Bergen Lehigh 6'5" 260 lbs. 4.84c Alex Holmes USC 6'3" 275 lbs. 4.75 Brian Casey Kansas State 6'7" 270 lbs. 4.82 Defensive Tackle Lorenzo Alexander California 6'2" 289 lbs. 5.07c Larry Burt Miami (OH) 6'2" 304 lbs. 5.37c Albert Means Memphis 6'4" 338 lbs. 5.47c Santonio Thomas Miami FL 6'4" 308 lbs. 5.15 Lynn McGruder Oklahoma 6'1" 307 lbs. 5.00c Eric Coleman Clemson 6'5" 288 lbs. 5.09c Tim Bulman Boston College 6'4" 294 lbs. 4.97c Defensive End Adell Duckett Texas Tech 6'4" 270 lbs. 4.81c Simon Fraser Ohio State 6'5" 288 lbs. 4.97c Tyler King Connecticut 6'5 271 lbs. 4.83c Adrian Awasom North Texas 6'4" 273 lbs. 5.00c Derreck Robinson Iowa 6'4" 289 lbs. 4.98c Middle Linebacker Mike Goolsby Notre Dame 6'3" 249 lbs. 4.87c James Kinney Missouri 6'1" 244 lbs. 4.62p Jonathan Pollard Oregon State 6'1" 247 lbs. 4.67c Martin Patterson TCU 6'1" 235 lbs. 5.00c Liam Ezekiel Northeastern 6'0" 249 lbs. 4.79c Robert Rodriguez UTEP 6'1" 235 lbs. 4.70 Lionel Turner LSU 6'0" 260 lbs. 4.91p Outside Linebacker Roger Cooper Montana State 6'2" 239 lbs. 4.69c Derek Wake Penn State 6'2" 236 lbs. 4.60c Arnold Harrison Georgia 6'3" 225 lbs. 4.68p Derek Curry Notre Dame 6'2" 239 lbs. 4.85p Maurice Lloyd Connecticut 5'11" 228 lbs. 4.71 Wendell Hunter California 6'0" 228 lbs. 4.77p Cornerback Brandon Browner * Oregon State 6'3" 221 lbs. 4.60c Justin Perkins Connecticut 5'11" 187 lbs. 4.53 Mark Walker TCU 5'10" 195 lbs. 4.56 Brandon Payne New Mexico 6'0" 183 lbs. Jerron Wishom Louisiana Tech 6'0" 193 lbs. 4.55c Evan Oglesby North Alabama 5'10" 3/8 185 lbs. 4.53p Safety Ernest Shazor * Michigan 6'3" 228 lbs. 4.70 James Butler Georgia Tech 6'1" 212 lbs. 4.59c Jamaal Brimmer UNLV 6'1" 216 lbs. 4.76c Atari Bigby Akron 5'10" 214 lbs. 4.60 Aaron Francisco BYU 6'2" 211 lbs. 4.78c Kicker Jonathan Nichols Mississippi 6'0" 180 lbs. 5.15 Nick Novak Maryland 6'0" 186 lbs. Punter Matt Payne BYU 6'4" 234 lbs. 4.76 Bryce Benekos UTEP 6'5" 190 lbs. 4.95 Cole Farden Oklahoma State 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.95

In case you were keeping track...Ernest Shazor signed with ARZ

[LetsGo0akland]

According to my calculations based on Combine results posted on the website I provided (missing numbers for some players I can get elsewhere) and the table provided above, I have determined ballpark figures for the following players in these areas:

#12 Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB)
Speed 63; Jumping 78; Agility 65

#11 Alex Smith, QB (SF)
Speed 62; Jumping 69; Acceleration 82; Agility 90

#17 Jason Campbell, QB (WAS)
(Will post when I get more information not provided on that site)

Charlie Frye, QB (CLE)
Speed 54; Jumping 70; Accel 89; Agility 82

#23 Ronnie Brown, HB (MIA)
Speed 88; Jumping 75; Accel 77; Agility 73

#28 J.J. Arrington, HB (ARI)
Speed 84; Jumping 79; Accel 79; Agility 91

Courtney Roby, WR (TEN)
Speed 89; Jumping 83; Accel 87; Agility 98

#11 Mike Williams, WR (DET)
Speed 70; Jumping 83 (website: 4.67 40; 36.5" vertical)
Speed 72; Jumping 85 (NFL.com: 4.57 40; 37" vertical)

#32 Carlos Rogers, CB (WAS)
Speed 88; Jumping 93; Accel 95; Agility 99; Strength 57

Fabian Washington, CB (OAK)
Speed 92; Jumping 98; Accel 89; Strength 60

Derrick Johnson, OLB (KC)
Speed 73; Jumping 88; Accel 93; Agility 74

Demarcus Ware, OLB/DE (DAL)
Speed 73; Jumping 89; Accel 81; Agility 88; Strength 77

I would love to do more and to edit these into my CAPs but I have work in less than 6 hours (because I am sure I did not come close in a few areas. I may have to make some changes because I think Smith and Rodgers' speeds are a little low. They are scrambling QBs and a low-60s rating will not do).

There appears to be some inconsistencies between NFL.com's prospect profiles and the "official" combine results posted on the website.

Alex Smith
4.7 40, 31" vertical (NFL.com); 4.79 40, 32" vertical (website)

Aaron Rodgers
4.74 40, 32 5/8" vertical (NFL.com); 4.78 40, 34 1/2" vertical (website)

I only have the time to double check those but that's the kind of differences I get between the two sources. Which should I trust more?

[Waxen]

I may be slightly confused but didn't Fabian Washington run a sub 4.3 40 at the combine? This seems to make his speed of 92 a bit low. I don't know how many guys in the NFL were given above a 92 speed on the madden rosters but that sure makes a lot of really really fast guys. I would assume that Fabian Washington would be in the 97-99 range for speed without a doubt.

[koryk34]

yea.. his speed should def be a 99. He ran a 4.25

[RailStone]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpanishFly

According to my calculations based on Combine results posted on the website I provided (missing numbers for some players I can get elsewhere) and the table provided above, I have determined ballpark figures for the following players in these areas: #12 Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB) Speed 63; Jumping 78; Agility 65 #11 Alex Smith, QB (SF) Speed 62; Jumping 69; Acceleration 82; Agility 90 #17 Jason Campbell, QB (WAS) (Will post when I get more information not provided on that site) Charlie Frye, QB (CLE) Speed 54; Jumping 70; Accel 89; Agility 82 #23 Ronnie Brown, HB (MIA) Speed 88; Jumping 75; Accel 77; Agility 73 #28 J.J. Arrington, HB (ARI) Speed 84; Jumping 79; Accel 79; Agility 91 Courtney Roby, WR (TEN) Speed 89; Jumping 83; Accel 87; Agility 98 #11 Mike Williams, WR (DET) Speed 70; Jumping 83 (website: 4.67 40; 36.5" vertical) Speed 72; Jumping 85 (NFL.com: 4.57 40; 37" vertical) #32 Carlos Rogers, CB (WAS) Speed 88; Jumping 93; Accel 95; Agility 99; Strength 57 Fabian Washington, CB (OAK) Speed 92; Jumping 98; Accel 89; Strength 60 Derrick Johnson, OLB (KC) Speed 73; Jumping 88; Accel 93; Agility 74 Demarcus Ware, OLB/DE (DAL) Speed 73; Jumping 89; Accel 81; Agility 88; Strength 77 I would love to do more and to edit these into my CAPs but I have work in less than 6 hours (because I am sure I did not come close in a few areas. I may have to make some changes because I think Smith and Rodgers' speeds are a little low. They are scrambling QBs and a low-60s rating will not do). There appears to be some inconsistencies between NFL.com's prospect profiles and the "official" combine results posted on the website. Alex Smith 4.7 40, 31" vertical (NFL.com); 4.79 40, 32" vertical (website) Aaron Rodgers 4.74 40, 32 5/8" vertical (NFL.com); 4.78 40, 34 1/2" vertical (website) I only have the time to double check those but that's the kind of differences I get between the two sources. Which should I trust more?

I would use the official nfl page over anything else.

[LetsGo0akland]

I had a feeling the speed was low for a lot of players and I was thinking about this on my way home from work. Definitely a bit low - Rodgers and Smith are both scrambling quarterbacks and deserve higher than low to mid-60s. I will see what else I can find. Definitely using NFL.com for the 40-yard dash numbers. However, for the other ratings, I have to use that site when they are not giving on NFL.com

[LetsGo0akland]

I have determined that this table is a bit off as it gives anybody with a 4.5 40 marginal speed (in the 70s) for guys like Cedric Benson and Mike Williams (not the fastest players but definitely warrant more than low-to-mid-70s.

[NEW_ORLEANS]

Do football players actually show their 40 speed in a game? with pads and having to cut and see the feeling and everything.