Thoughts about Josh Johnson

[dabeavs541]

Leftwich is now downgraded to 3rd string quarterback for Josh Johnson? I know he has had a rough first 3 games but they act like they are about to cut him. I think Josh Johnson is a decent quarterback but I just realized that he has a rating of 57 on madden. I kind of see why (hard to give a quarterback a higher awarness rating when he has 82 speed) but does anybody think that he will be relivent. Wasn't Johnson like 4th or 5th on the depth chart last year for the bucs. What happend to Josh Freeman, still number 2 qb ? I'm just a little confused.

[JohnDoe8865]

Freeman doesn't have the "awareness" to start in the NFL. He might be higher rated, more on potential, but Johnson has good upside too and 1 year on an NFL roster.

If you were to re-rate Johnson, I would try to get him close to Freeman's OVR but based totally on some physical attributes like throw power, strength, agility, etc and not the same accuracy and awreness type ratings.

At the same time you don't want to overpower his physical tools and make another Vick 04.

[dabeavs541]

thanks JohnDoe8865. when you explain it that way it seems like Johnson should have a slightly higher rating than Freeman... well at least the same.

[bigtxambition]

I gave Johnson a 69. I think that's more than more fair for a backup QB that's been given the starting job.

[ldpart67]

Quote: Originally Posted by dabeavs541

Leftwich is now downgraded to 3rd string quarterback for Josh Johnson? I know he has had a rough first 3 games but they act like they are about to cut him. I think Josh Johnson is a decent quarterback but I just realized that he has a rating of 57 on madden. I kind of see why (hard to give a quarterback a higher awarness rating when he has 82 speed) but does anybody think that he will be relivent. Wasn't Johnson like 4th or 5th on the depth chart last year for the bucs. What happend to Josh Freeman, still number 2 qb ? I'm just a little confused.

Bucs fan here, and I was at the game against the Giants when they sat Leftwich. If I were you Id rate him some where between a 65 and 68. I was very impressed with they way he moved the team down there field, If it hadnt been for Mark "fumble fingers " Clayton dropping a pass wide open in the endzone, he wouldve led them to their only score.
I would bump his awareness to a few ticks below Leftwichs, increase his short pass ability and throwing on the run, that should get you right to about 66-68, which I think is where he should be. FYI.. I think Freeman is Overrated in this game. He looked like a rookie in pre-season, and while he is the future, as another poster said he does not have the awareness that Johnson displayed on Sunday.

[AnthonyPhillips]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigtxambition

I gave Johnson a 69. I think that's more than more fair for a backup QB that's been given the starting job.

Bingo. I gave him the same rating. He was a beast in college (something like 40TDs and 1 Int in a single season) so i gave his short and med accuracy a boost and his awareness also.

[DreadedSteeler]

I've never seen Johnson play. How does he compare to Dennis Dixon?

[dabeavs541]

I think part of my confusion might have been due to freeman being rated 73. I just started to watch the bucs this year because my boi sammie stroughter plays for them. I thought they drafted freeman to be their qb of the future and I had never really heard of johnson. If freeman was rated like 68 or 69 then I wouldn't have questioned boosting johnson's rating. 69 seems fair for johnson but what do you raise stat wise to him without turning him into vick jr.