thats a thought bro, and that might be what has to happen, the roster and ratings prolly wouldn't be that long, but trying to clear that data of the current players is the issue, and i agree with you that skins team was great! i loved art monk, he was a beast, Darrell green to. i will work on it 4shure, im not buying madden 13, gonna stick with what i have and try and do some editing, same with the show 12, i'm gonna try and go back to the days before we had all this auto rosters and stuff and just create it myself, yea it took time even back then on nes etc, but we got it done then, and if there's a way to do it now, it will be done!