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08-30-2009, 06:09 PM | #9 |
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Re: St. Francisco's All-Time QB Coach Mode Sliders
I'm curious to know what kind of stats you are getting with these. I'm testing out Bill's coach sliders as well and have been trying to tone down the QB completion percentages. I have found it to be very touchy. The QBs can go from 75% completion rates to below 50 without moving the accuracy slider very much. I'm wondering what kind of rates you're getting with the slider at 10.
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At 10, I'm getting some mixed results. The QB completion % for my team is still high, while the CPU QB has tended to float around 50%. I have not extensively tested this all-time QB theory where I control the offense all of the time, so I can't say for sure how good or bad it is. I did toss around the notion of crafting a QB accuracy slider that would be based around the QB awareness. So it could be moved up or down based on which team/QB you were facing. Never tested anything with it though. |
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08-30-2009, 07:04 PM | #11 |
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AFC profile done from a simmed season in Madden 2010:
BUFFALO BILLS Pass Attempts: 529 Rush Attempts: 458 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 68% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 62 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % MIAMI DOLPHINS Pass Attempts: 530 Rush Attempts: 444 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 60% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 61 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Pass Attempts: 636 Rush Attempts: 417 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 66 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 60/40 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % NEW YORK JETS Pass Attempts: 499 Rush Attempts: 515 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 63 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 49/51 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % BALTIMORE RAVENS Pass Attempts: 490 Rush Attempts: 542 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 65 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 47/53 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 40/60 pass/run % CINCINNATI BENGALS Pass Attempts: 552 Rush Attempts: 423 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 61 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 57/43 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % CLEVELAND BROWNS Pass Attempts: 571 Rush Attempts: 448 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 59% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 56/44 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % PITTSBURGH STEELERS Pass Attempts: 526 Rush Attempts: 479 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 63 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 52/48 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % HOUSTON TEXANS Pass Attempts: 564 Rush Attempts: 404 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 63% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 61 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % INDIANAPOLIS COLTS Pass Attempts: 565 Rush Attempts: 423 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 61% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 62 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 57/43 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS Pass Attempts: 542 Rush Attempts: 452 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 62 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % TENNESSEE TITANS Pass Attempts: 501 Rush Attempts: 519 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 39% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 49/51 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Pass Attempts: 574 Rush Attempts: 464 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 55% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 65 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % DENVER BRONCOS Pass Attempts: 546 Rush Attempts: 457 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 63 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % OAKLAND RAIDERS Pass Attempts: 494 Rush Attempts: 431 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 58 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53% pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Pass Attempts: 602 Rush Attempts: 417 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % |
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08-30-2009, 08:54 PM | #12 |
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Re: St. Francisco's All-Time QB Coach Mode Sliders
NFC profile done from a simmed season in Madden 2010:
NEW YORK GIANTS Pass Attempts: 515 Rush Attempts: 512 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 49% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 50/50 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Pass Attempts: 616 Rush Attempts: 428 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 46% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 65 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % DALLAS COWBOYS Pass Attempts: 632 Rush Attempts: 448 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 68 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % WASHINGTON REDSKINS Pass Attempts: 485 Rush Attempts: 431 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 56% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 57 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % MINNESOTA VIKINGS Pass Attempts: 525 Rush Attempts: 495 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 61% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 51/49 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % CHICAGO BEARS Pass Attempts: 545 Rush Attempts: 474 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 58% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % GREEN BAY PACKERS Pass Attempts: 628 Rush Attempts: 456 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 62% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 68 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % DETROIT LIONS Pass Attempts: 501 Rush Attempts: 458 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 51% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 60 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 52/48 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % CAROLINA PANTHERS Pass Attempts: 485 Rush Attempts: 527 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 52% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 63 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 48/52 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % ATLANTA FALCONS Pass Attempts: 448 Rush Attempts: 537 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 63% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 62 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 45/55 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 40/60 pass/run % TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS Pass Attempts: 497 Rush Attempts: 479 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 42% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 61 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 51/49 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Pass Attempts: 642 Rush Attempts: 380 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 63/37 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % ARIZONA CARDINALS Pass Attempts: 572 Rush Attempts: 422 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 62 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS Pass Attempts: 472 Rush Attempts: 530 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 49% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 63 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 47/53 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % SEATTLE SEAHAWKS Pass Attempts: 536 Rush Attempts: 442 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 61 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % ST. LOUIS RAMS Pass Attempts: 580 Rush Attempts: 451 Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 60% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Avg. Plays Per Game: 64 Pass-to-Run Ratio: 56/44 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % |
08-30-2009, 09:30 PM | #13 |
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Whew...ok, all done with the team profiles. Now it's time to sit back and do a little analysis. Before we get into trying to tune each Madden team to reflect their real life counterparts, let's look over the simmed results.
I really liked what I saw here, and I have to commend the Madden team on the job they did balancing everything. Pass/run coaching philosophies seemed to directly correlate with the pass/run ratios on the field. In the sliders that were favored for more of a split backfield, I definitely saw a lower number of carries for the starter. Also, the average number of plays was dead on...couldn't have done it any better myself. This means that with just a little testing, we can determine where the philosophies need to be in order to properly balance each team. And the greatest thing about this is that as your franchise progresses through the years, you can modify team's philosophies to fit around their new players. For now, let's focus on the pass/run philosophies...and more specifically, how the teams performed on the field as opposed to their philosophy settings. We'll begin with all teams who had a 50/50 pass/run setting, as this represents the largest group of teams (18 teams to be exact): BUFFALO BILLS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % MIAMI DOLPHINS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % NEW YORK JETS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 49/51 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % PITTSBURGH STEELERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 52/48 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % TENNESSEE TITANS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 49/51 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % DENVER BRONCOS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % OAKLAND RAIDERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 50/50 pass/run % NEW YORK GIANTS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 50/50 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % WASHINGTON REDSKINS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % MINNESOTA VIKINGS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 51/49 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % CHICAGO BEARS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % DETROIT LIONS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 52/48 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % CAROLINA PANTHERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 48/52 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 51/49 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 47/53 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % SEATTLE SEAHAWKS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % ST. LOUIS RAMS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 56/44 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 50/50 pass/run % Give those boys over at EA Sports a round of applause! 17 of the 18 teams fell within 5% of the 50/50 pass/run philosophy...very impressive. Also notice that the majority of the teams slightly favored the pass over the run. So, if you'd like a balanced attack that slightly favors the passing game, go with 50/50. If you'd like a balanced attack that slightly favors the running game, perhaps a 40/60 setting will do well? Who knows, we'll have to test that. Ok, next group of teams are those who had a 60/40 pass/run philosophy (a total of 12 teams). Let's see what we came up with: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 60/40 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % CINCINNATI BENGALS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 57/43 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % CLEVELAND BROWNS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 56/44 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % HOUSTON TEXANS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % INDIANAPOLIS COLTS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 57/43 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 60/40 pass/run % PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % DALLAS COWBOYS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % GREEN BAY PACKERS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 63/37 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % ARIZONA CARDINALS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 58/42 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 60/40 pass/run % Once again, a round of applause. 11 of the 12 teams fell within 5% of the 60/40 philosophy! Also, 11 of the 12 teams had a slightly reduced passing game than the philosophy indicated. So, test #2...if you want a team with a 60/40 style that slightly favors the running game, go with 60/40. Can we achieve a 60/40 style that slightly favors the passing game with a 70/30 philosophy setting? Final two teams were tuned for 40/60: BALTIMORE RAVENS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 47/53 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Madden: 40/60 pass/run % ATLANTA FALCONS Pass-to-Run Ratio: 45/55 pass/run % Pass-to-Run Ratio in Coaching Philosophy: 40/60 pass/run % We see the same thing here...good numbers that slightly favor the running game. So, test #3 will be similar to test #2, just in the opposite direction. CONCLUSION The philosophy settings as far as pass/run ratios are concerned are very well balanced, moreso than I've ever seen from a Madden game right out of the box. Color me impressed. FINDINGS 50/50 pass/run % = A balanced attack that slightly favors the passing game. 60/40 pass/run % = A pass-heavy offensive attack that slightly favors the running game. 40/60 pass/run % = A run-heavy offensive attack that slightly favors the passing game. Only two teams used this setting, so it has not been extensively tested. TESTS 1. By bringing the coaching philosophy to 40/60 pass/run, can we achieve a balanced offensive attack that slightly favors the running game? 2. By bringing the coaching philosophy to 70/30 pass/run, can we achieve a pass-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing percentages slightly over 60%? 3. By bringing the coaching philosophy to 30/70 pass/run, can we achieve a run-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the running percentages slightly over 60%? |
08-30-2009, 10:58 PM | #14 |
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Now let's turn our attention to the runningbacks. So, I'm basing all profiles and tests off the percentage of carries the starting runningback sees in a game. There are five groups of teams that we need to analyze: 90/10, 80/20, 70/30, 60/40, and 50/50. We'll start from the top with 90/10 (four teams):
BUFFALO BILLS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 68% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 CHICAGO BEARS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 58% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 GREEN BAY PACKERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 62% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 ATLANTA FALCONS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 63% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 90/10 RB1/RB2 If we combine the four teams, then the starter averages 63% of the total carries. Looking over the real NFL stats, there are a handful of teams who average around 70% for their starters. These teams represent a dying breed in the NFL who have just one premiere runningback, and only spell him when he gets fatigued. Still, in order to achieve that high of a percentage, the RB sliders might have to be moved up to 100/0. We'll see in later tests how that will work out. Now for the 80/20 group (nine teams): NEW YORK JETS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 CLEVELAND BROWNS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 59% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 55% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 WASHINGTON REDSKINS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 56% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 MINNESOTA VIKINGS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 61% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 49% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 ST. LOUIS RAMS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 60% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 80/20 RB1/RB2 This comes out to an average of 57% of the snaps going to the starter, which is 5% less than the 90/10 setting. Also, I'm sure some will notice a team like the 49ers who are not within the normal fluctuating areas. This could have something to do with in-game injuries, as I did not keep track of those. So, don't read too much into those. The 70/30 group (five teams): MIAMI DOLPHINS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 60% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 PITTSBURGH STEELERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 HOUSTON TEXANS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 63% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 61% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 DETROIT LIONS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 51% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 70/30 RB1/RB2 An average of 56% of the snaps went to the starter...just slightly lower than the 80/20 setting. The 60/40 group (five teams): CINCINNATI BENGALS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 OAKLAND RAIDERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 NEW YORK GIANTS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 49% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 46% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 CAROLINA PANTHERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 52% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 60/40 RB1/RB2 50% of the snaps went to the starter...that's 6% less than the 70/30 setting. So it may be that 70/30 and 80/20 yield nearly identical results in the sim engine. And finally, the 50/50 setting (nine teams): NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 BALTIMORE RAVENS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 TENNESSEE TITANS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 39% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 DENVER BRONCOS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 DALLAS COWBOYS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 47% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 42% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 ARIZONA CARDINALS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 53% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter RB1-RB2 ratio in Madden: 50/50 RB1/RB2 48% of the snaps went to the starter...that's just 2% lower than the 60/40 setting. CONCLUSION Adjusting the RB slider does indeed increase the amount of snaps your backup runningback will see. This is good news, it means they can be tweaked to yield nearly perfect sim results. FINDINGS 80/20 and 70/30 yielded similar results. 60/40 and 50/50 yielded similar results. We saw a 5% drop in the number of carries the starter took when we went from 90/10 to 80/20, and again from 70/30 to 60/40. In the NFL, there are a variety of factor that impact how many snaps a runningback takes. Perhaps the sim engine isn't set up to give you a noticeably lower number of snaps every time you take 10% off. For now, we will assume the following: 90/10 and 80/20 are the same, and 70/30 and 60/40 are the same. If we continue this logic, we should see a 5% drop from the 60/40 numbers once we move the sliders down to 40/60. TESTS 1. Real life team profiles revealed a handful of teams give the starter the ball around 70% of the time. By adjusting the RB sliders to 100/0, can we get closer to this number? 2. Real life team profiles revealed that teams who use a dual RB system give the ball to their starter an average of 40% of the time. In our intitial Madden tests, we never saw that low of a number. How will adjusting the sliders to 40/60, 30/70, and 20/80 effect the number of carries the starter sees? 3. Do 80/20-70/30, and 60/40-50/50 sliders provide consistently similar results on average? Bigger test groups are needed for these areas. |
08-31-2009, 08:35 PM | #15 |
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Re: St. Francisco's All-Time QB Coach Mode Sliders
Ok, I'm ready to begin the first stage of tests.
So, as far a pass/run goes, here's what we're looking for: 30/70 pass/run - A run-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the running plays average between 55-60%. 40/60 pass/run - A balanced offensive attack where we will consistently see the running plays average between 50-55%. 50/50 pass/run - A balanced offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing plays average between 50-55%. 60/40 pass/run - A pass-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing plays average between 55-60%. 70/30 pass/run - A pass-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing plays average between 60-65%. So, here will be the new coaching philosophies for each NFL team based on the profiles developed from 2008 regular season stats: Buffalo Bills: 50/50 pass/run Miami Dolphins: 50/50 pass/run New England Patriots: 50/50 pass/run New York Jets: 60/40 pass/run Baltimore Ravens: 30/70 pass/run Cincinnati Bengals: 50/50 pass/run Cleveland Browns: 50/50 pass/run Pittsburgh Steelers: 50/50 pass/run Houston Texans: 60/40 pass/run Indianapolis Colts: 70/30 pass/run Jacksonville Jaguars: 60/40 pass/run Tennessee Titans: 40/60 pass/run San Diego Chargers: 50/50 pass/run Denver Broncos: 70/30 pass/run Oakland Raiders: 40/60 pass/run Kansas City Chiefs: 60/40 pass/run New York Giants: 40/60 pass/run Philadelphia Eagles: 60/40 pass/run Dallas Cowboys: 60/40 pass/run Washington Redskins: 50/50 pass/run Minnesota Vikings: 40/60 pass/run Chicago Bears: 50/50 pass/run Green Bay Packers: 50/50 pass/run Detroit Lions: 60/40 pass/run Carolina Panthers: 40/60 pass/run Atlanta Falcons: 30/70 pass/run Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 50/50 pass/run New Orleans Saints: 70/30 pass/run Arizona Cardinals: 70/30 pass/run San Francisco 49ers: 60/40 pass/run Seattle Seahawks: 50/50 pass/run St. Louis Rams: 60/40 pass/run I understand that some teams need to change their 2008 ratios for 2009 (Example: Broncos threw the ball 62% of the time last year, and will likely run more this season). However, for the purposes of this test, we're simply trying to get the Madden percentages to line up with the percentages we saw in the NFL last season. Also, we're trying to get the percentages to line up with what we've already learned from our initial test of the coaching philosophies. So, that 5% range I listed earlier is a big part...we want to see almost all of the teams fall within that range. Ok, now let's take a look at what we're looking for in the RB sliders. Due to the variety of numbers we saw, these will be a little more forgiving, so we'll use a 10% range: 100/0 RB1/RB2 - 65-75% of carries go to starter. 90/10 RB1/RB2 - 60-70% of carries go to starter. 80/20 RB1/RB2 - 55-65% of carries go to starter. 70/30 RB1/RB2 - 50-60% of carries go to starter. 60/40 RB1/RB2 - 45-55% of carries go to starter. 50/50 RB1/RB2 - 40-50% of carries go to starter. 40/60 RB1/RB2 - 35-45% of carries to starter. 30/70 RB1/RB2 - 30-40% of carries to starter. 20/80 RB1/RB2 - 25-35% of carries to starter. 10/90 RB1/RB2 - 20-30% of carries to starter. So, here will be the new RB sliders for each NFL team based on the profiles developed from 2008 regular season stats: Buffalo Bills: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Miami Dolphins: 50/50 RB1/RB2 New England Patriots: 20/80 RB1/RB2 New York Jets: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Baltimore Ravens: 40/60 RB1/RB2 Cincinnati Bengals: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Cleveland Browns: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Pittsburgh Steelers: 60/40 RB1/RB2 Houston Texans: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Indianapolis Colts: 40/60 RB1/RB2 Jacksonville Jaguars: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Tennessee Titans: 60/40 RB1/RB2 San Diego Chargers: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Denver Broncos: 0/100 RB1/RB2 Oakland Raiders: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Kansas City Chiefs: 60/40 RB1/RB2 New York Giants: 50/50 RB1/RB2 Philadelphia Eagles: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Dallas Cowboys: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Washington Redskins: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Minnesota Vikings: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Chicago Bears: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Green Bay Packers: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Detroit Lions: 100/0 RB1/RB2 Carolina Panthers: 70/30 RB1/RB2 Atlanta Falcons: 90/10 RB1/RB2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 40/60 RB1/RB2 New Orleans Saints: 20/80 RB1/RB2 Arizona Cardinals: 40/60 RB1/RB2 San Francisco 49ers: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Seattle Seahawks: 40/60 RB1/RB2 St. Louis Rams: 80/20 RB1/RB2 Once again, we're not trying to guess how much we think the starting RBs should run, we're simply trying to get our numbers to fall within these ranges, and match up with the 2008 team profiles. I'll begin testing these out right now, and I hope to have the results posted sometime tonight. In the meantime, if anybody wants to join in on the fun and exciting world of testing these sliders, there are still many other areas where testing is needed. Reply in this thread or hit me up via PMs. Last edited by St. Francisco; 08-31-2009 at 09:29 PM. |
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08-31-2009, 10:17 PM | #16 |
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Re: St. Francisco's All-Time QB Coach Mode Sliders
good work.
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