patch #3 sliders..................very hard....very real

[celg35]

here is my slider set. Dont be fooled by the numbers..............these sliders are very hard and very real. when you have a play that goes for positive yards, it is very rewarding.....use the sliders and you will see what i meen
WHAT I AM TRYING TO CREATE HERE IS A MORE REAL FEELING TO THE GAME. I DONT WANT A GIMME ON ANY PLAY! I WANT TO KNOW THAT "EVERY" PLAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A DUD OR A STUD. I FELT THAT ON OTHER SLIDER (ALTHOUGH VERY GOOD) THERE WAS ALWAYS A CERTAIN PLAY I COULD GO TO AND IT WOULD WORK 90% OF THE TIME. I DONT FEEL THAT WAY WITH THESE SLIDERS. i FEEL NOW MORE THAN EVER , I NEED ALL OF MY AUDIBLES, BLOCKING ASIGNMENTS AND GAMEPLAN TO HAVE A SUCCESSFULL GAME. IN THE END WIN OR LOSE I FEEL VERY REWARDED BY THE GAME EXPERIENCE.

use the green sliders for hardcore,
HUMAN / CPU
PASSING 15 /50
PASS BLOCKING 50 /0
RECIEVING (50)25/ 50 can raise the human to 50 if you are having trouble passing

BREAK TACKLES 0 /0
RUN BLOCKING (20)0 /0(20) these can raised for better balance
FUMBLES 100 /100

PASS REACTION 100 /100
PASS RUSH (5)0 /0 this will allow your defensive linemen from getting pancacked at the line
INT 0 /0

RUN REACTION 100 /100
BLOCK SHEDDING 0 /0
TACKLE 0 /0

7 MIN QUARTERS
0 SPEED THRESHOLD
VERY SLOW SPEED
penalties are maxed for everything except holding , clipping and facemask. those are at 52
* ALL SLIDER SETS ADD UP TO 100 . THIS PUTS YOU BETWEEN ALL PRO AND ALL MADDEN.)
THIS MEENS THAT THE GAME WILL PLAY VERY COMPETITIVE ,EVEN IF THE SUBSETS SLIDERS HAVE A VALUE OF 0. THIER OUTCOME IS DICTATED BY THE OVERALL NUMBER OF THE SLIDER SET.
tHESE SETS ARE FOR TRUE SIM BALLERS................TRY THEM OUT........THEY PRODUCE REALISTIC STATS.

[celg35]

Quote: Originally Posted by celg35

here is my slider set. Dont be fooled by the numbers..............these sliders are very hard and very real. when you have a play that goes for positive yards, it is very rewarding.....use the sliders and you will see what i meen HUMAN / CPU PASSING 25 /50 PASS BLOCKING 50 /0 RECIEVING 25/ 50 BREAK TACKLES 0 /0 RUN BLOCKING 0 /0 FUMBLES 100 /100 PASS REACTION 100 /100 PASS RUSH 0 /0 INT 0 /0 RUN REACTION 100 /100 BLOCK SHEDDING 0 /0 TACKLE 0 /0 7 MIN QUARTERS 0 SPEED THRESHOLD VERY SLOW SPEED * ALL SLIDER SETS ADD UP TO 100 . THIS PUTS YOU BETWEEN ALL PRO AND ALL MADDEN.) THIS MEENS THAT THE GAME WILL PLAY VERY COMPETITIVE ,EVEN IF THE SUBSETS SLIDERS HAVE A VALUE OF 0. THIER OUTCOME IS DICTATED BY THE OVERALL NUMBER OF THE SLIDER SET. tHESE SETS ARE FOR TRUE SIM BALLERS................TRY THEM OUT........THEY PRODUCE REALISTIC STATS.

Ok guys, i am loving these sliders.....the games are great.....i will make some adjustments to the user and cpu if you are struggling.

check on my original slider set for the changes.

[RavensFan2010]

Game 1 Colts(CPU)45 VS Texans(Me)46
I scored with 4 sec left.Down by 1 and went for 2pts to win the game.Good fun game but not quite realistic.Any help on tweaks would be great.
My impressions...Scoring was a bit to high.I like a little more defense in games.To many big plays.I know its Peyton Manning and the Colts but there should not be 3 65+ yrd passes to wide open receivers. They had no running game at all.Some imp stats below....

Passing
M.Schaub 30/49 399 yds 3 td 1 int 61% completion sacked twice
P.Manning 23/40 479 yds 5 td 0 int 57% completion sacked twice

Rushing
A.Foster 16 att 111 yds 1 td 6.9 avg 5 btk 67 long
J.Addai 17 att 32 yds 1 td 1.8 avg 4 btk 21 long

Receiving
O.Daniels 11 catches 117 yds 78 yds after catch
A.Johnson 8 catches 148 yds 3 td 67 yds after catch
R.Wayne 9 catches 170 yds 3 td 42 yds after catch 61 longest catch
A.Collie 8 catches 197 yds 2 td 62 yds after catch 73 longest catch

I used the slider as following:
Wr catch I kept at 25
Run Blk 20 for Hum
Pass Rush 5 for hum
Run Blk Cpu 5
Everything else was the same

[celg35]

Quote: Originally Posted by RavensFan2010

Game 1 Colts(CPU)45 VS Texans(Me)46 I scored with 4 sec left.Down by 1 and went for 2pts to win the game.Good fun game but not quite realistic.Any help on tweaks would be great. My impressions...Scoring was a bit to high.I like a little more defense in games.To many big plays.I know its Peyton Manning and the Colts but there should not be 3 65+ yrd passes to wide open receivers. They had no running game at all.Some imp stats below.... Passing M.Schaub 30/49 399 yds 3 td 1 int 61% completion sacked twice P.Manning 23/40 479 yds 5 td 0 int 57% completion sacked twice Rushing A.Foster 16 att 111 yds 1 td 6.9 avg 5 btk 67 long J.Addai 17 att 32 yds 1 td 1.8 avg 4 btk 21 long Receiving O.Daniels 11 catches 117 yds 78 yds after catch A.Johnson 8 catches 148 yds 3 td 67 yds after catch R.Wayne 9 catches 170 yds 3 td 42 yds after catch 61 longest catch A.Collie 8 catches 197 yds 2 td 62 yds after catch 73 longest catch I used the slider as following: Wr catch I kept at 25 Run Blk 20 for Hum Pass Rush 5 for hum Run Blk Cpu 5 Everything else was the same

for you , it seems you are like me and stick to my original set. Keep the run block at 0 as well as the pass rush.

just curious if you played 7 min quarters or more............with the cpu reaction time at 100, wr's getting that much space is usually few and far between.

I usually play with pats, and in 7 min quarters i usually have Welker with 5-7 catches and Moss 2-3 catches. There is usually very llittle seperation between wr and cornerback. I think you should lower your qb accuracy to 15 and put the wr abilty at 35.

so on the human side put qb accuracy - 15 pass block -50 wr abilty- 35

[celg35]

sliders are adjusted in red for better balance.

[Subypan]

ok I tried these sliders with the updates (red) applied

NFL Scoreboard - San Francisco 49ers (0-0) at Seattle Seahawks (0-0)

, 1 2 3 4 F San Francisco 49ers 3 7 7 7 24 Seattle Seahawks 3 31 10 3 47 Top Performers San Francisco 49ers - Stats Seattle Seahawks - Stats	Team Stats Comparison SF SEA First Downs 5 19 3rd Down Efficiency 0-9 (0%) 6-14 (42%) 4th Down Efficiency 0-1 (0%) 0-0 (0%) Total Yards 492 535 Passing Yards 181 287 Rushing Yards 81 124 Penalties-Penalty Yards 2-20 2-25 Turnovers 3 2 Time of Possession 10:51 17:09
Scoring Summary First Quarter SF SEA SEA 2:07 O. Mare, 47 Yd FG 0 3 SF 0:30 J. Nedney, 42 Yd FG 3 3 Second Quarter SF SEA SF 5:48 N. Clements, Returned interception 60 Yds (J. Nedney kick) 10 3 SEA 4:15 J. Jones 26 Yd pass from M. Hasselbeck (O. Mare kick) 10 10 SEA 1:35 J. Forsett 3 Yd run (O. Mare kick) 10 17 SEA 1:08 J. Forsett 35 Yd pass from M. Hasselbeck (O. Mare kick) 10 24 SEA 0:54 M. Trufant, returned interception 30 Yds (O. Mare kick) 10 31 SEA 0:00 O. Mare, 28 Yd FG 10 34 Third Quarter SF SEA SEA 2:10 J. Carlson 5 Yd pass from M. Hasselbeck (O. Mare kick) 10 41 SEA 0:43 O. Mare, 38 Yd FG 10 44 SF 0:17 F. Gore, 74 Yd run (J. Nedney kick) 17 44 Fourth Quarter SF SEA SF 4:25 J. Morgan 86 Yd pass from A. Smith (J. Nedney kick) 24 44 SEA 3:00 O. Mare, 33 Yd FG 24 47
San Francisco 49ers Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Alex Smith 10/28 194 1 3 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Frank Gore 9 73 8.1 1 Brian Westbrook 3 1 0.3 0 Alex Smith 2 7 3.5 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Josh Morgan 3 123 41.0 1 Michael Crabtree 3 44 14.6 0 Frank Gore 3 27 9.0 0 Ted Ginn 1 0 0.0 0 Defense TKL SACK INT TD Dashon Goldson 7 0 0 0 Nate Clements 2 0 1 1 Shawntae Spencer 3 0 1 0 Navorro Bowman 5 0 0 0 Phillip Adams 4 0 0 0 Aubrayo Franklin 4 0 0 0 Michael Lewis 4 0 0 0 Thomas Johnson 3 0 0 0 William James 3 0 0 0 Demetric Evans 3 0 0 0 Isaac Sopoaga 2 0 0 0 Kick Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Ted Ginn 6 154 0 34 Kyle Wiliams 3 72 0 27 Punt Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Ted Ginn 1 4 0 4 Kicking FGM/A XPM/A PTS LONG Joe Nedney 1/1 3/3 6 43 Punting NO. YDS AVG IN 20 Andy Lee 7 328 46.8 0 Seattle Seahawks Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Matt Hasselbeck 21/36 287 3 2 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Justin Forsett 24 78 3.2 1 Leon Washington 9 42 4.6 0 Matt Hasselbeck 1 4 4.0 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Mike Williams 6 98 16.3 0 John Carlson 3 42 14.0 1 Justin Forsett 2 38 19.0 1 Julius Jones 1 26 26.0 1 Deion Branch 3 25 8.3 0 Defense TKL SACK INT TD Brandon Mebane 3 1 0 0 David Hawthorne 2 0 0 0 Marcus Trufant 1 0 3 1 Raheem Brock 1 1 0 0 Red Bryant 2 0 0 0 Leroy Hill 2 0 0 0 Aaron Curry 2 0 0 0 Lofa Tatupu 2 0 0 0 Kentwan Balmer 2 0 0 0 Earl Thomas 2 0 0 0 Jordan Babineaux 1 0 0 0 Kick Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Golden Tate 2 38 0 22 Justin Forsett 2 30 0 16 Punt Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Golden Tate 6 54 0 20 Kicking FGM/A XPM/A PTS LONG Olindo Mare 4/4 5/5 17 47 Punting NO. YDS AVG IN 20 Jon Ryan 4 212 53 1

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[Subypan]

Game #2 with these sliders

NFL Scoreboard - Seattle Seahawks (1-0) at Denver Broncos (0-1)

, 1 2 3 4 F Seattle Seahawks 7 17 0 3 27 Denver Broncos 14 0 0 0 14 Top Performers Seattle Seahawks - Stats Denver Broncos - Stats	Team Stats Comparison SEA DEN First Downs 19 10 3rd Down Efficiency 6-14 (42%) 3-13 (23%) 4th Down Efficiency 0-0 (0%) 0-1 (0%) Total Yards 567 441 Passing Yards 288 285 Rushing Yards 130 14 Penalties-Penalty Yards 1-10 7-41 Turnovers 1 2 Time of Possession 16:32 11:28
Scoring Summary First Quarter SEA DEN DEN 5:53 E. Royal 2 Yd pass from K. Orton (M. Prater kick) 7 0 SEA 4:34 D. Branch 9 Yd pass from M. Hasselbeck (O. Mare kick) 7 7 DEN 3:33 B. Lloyd 62 Yd pass from K. Orton (M. Prater kick) 14 7 Second Quarter SEA DEN SEA 4:39 L. Washington, 11 Yd run (O. Mare kick) 14 14 SEA 2:36 O. Mare, 23 Yd FG 14 17 SEA 0:47 J. Forsett, 1 Yd run (O. Mare kick) 14 24 Fourth Quarter SEA DEN SEA 5:43 O. Mare, 34 Yd FG 14 27
Seattle Seahawks Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Matt Hasselbeck 22/36 294 1 1 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Justin Forsett 16 108 6.7 1 Leon Washington 9 25 2.7 1 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Golden Tate 7 92 13.1 0 John Carlson 5 82 16.4 0 Deon Butler 3 48 16.0 0 Justin Forsett 3 32 10.6 0 Ben Obomanu 1 21 21.0 0 Defense TKL SACK INT TD Lofa Tatupu 4 1 0 0 Kelly Jennings 4 0 0 0 Aaron Curry 3 1 0 0 Marcus Trufant 1 1 0 0 Earl Thomas 2 0 1 0 Jordan Babineaux 1 0 1 0 Walter Thurmond III 2 0 0 0 David Hawthorne 2 0 0 0 Lawyer Milloy 2 0 0 0 Chris Clemons 1 0 0 0 Kam Chancellor 1 0 0 0 Kick Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Golden Tate 2 36 0 21 Justin Forsett 1 26 0 26 Punt Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Golden Tate 6 87 0 25 Kicking FGM/A XPM/A PTS LONG Olindo Mare 2/3 3/3 9 34 Punting NO. YDS AVG IN 20 Jon Ryan 4 195 48.7 1 Denver Broncos Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Kyle Orton 17/34 304 2 2 Rushing ATT YDS AVG TD Correll Buckhalter 13 12 0.9 0 Lawrence Maroney 1 2 2.0 0 Receiving REC YDS AVG TD Brandon Lloyd 4 102 25.5 1 Demaryius Thomas 2 63 31.5 0 Jabar Gaffney 2 54 27.0 0 Daniel Graham 2 33 16.5 0 Eddie Royal 2 18 9.0 1 Defense TKL SACK INT TD Andre Goodman 6 0 0 0 Jason Hunter 5 1 0 0 Champ Bailey 4 0 1 0 DJ Williams 5 0 0 0 Brian Dawkins 5 0 0 0 David Bruton 3 0 0 0 Renaldo Hill 3 0 0 0 Jarvis Moss 3 0 0 0 Darcel Mcbath 2 0 0 0 Nathan Jones 2 0 0 0 Marcus Thomas 2 0 0 0 Kick Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Eddie Royal 6 134 0 24 Punt Returning NO. YDS TD LONG Perrish Cox 1 6 0 8 Kicking FGM/A XPM/A PTS LONG Matt Prater 0/0 2/2 2 0 Punting NO. YDS AVG IN 20 Britton Colquitt 7 272 38.6 0

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[celg35]

Those numbers look good. Thanks for trying them. Maybe I will amp up the CPU run blocking.