Madden 12 coach mode sliders

[ollie102573]

Quote: Originally Posted by Manning2Harrison

On to Week 3, where the Saints-Texans game provided an ideal testing opportunity. We'd already seen Schaub go 50% under the old settings, so it would be interesting to see how he fared with the new ones. CPU WRC was lowered to 50, but upon seeing Schaub's base THA is 90, I decided to use a streamlined version of Playmaker's averaging, using Schaub's SAC, MAC, and DAC, which had an average of 86. With Brees being one of the most accurate passers in the league, if he had accuracy issues, then that should tell us that human QBA at 5 is too low. The game was started with human WRC still at 45, but I raised it to 50 when his first two passes were on the money and dropped. After the changes since the first of these 4 posts, the settings are now: QBA 5/86 (based on CPU QB accuracy ratings) PBK 100/100 WRC 50/50 BTK 1/0 RBK 50/39 FUM 41/40 PDR 0/25 INT 0/50 PR 100/100 RDR 27/22 BKS 7/5 TAK 40/39 Houston Texans at New Orleans Saints Sep 25, 2011 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Houston Texans (2-1) 14 10 0 0 24 New Orleans Saints (2-1) 0 7 17 7 31 Team Stats Comparison HOU NOR Total Offense 327 312 Rushing Yards 114 65 Passing Yards 213 247 First Downs 21 16 Punt Return Yards 13 10 Kick Return Yards 0 111 Total Yards 340 433 Turnovers 1 1 3rd Down Converstion 5-12 5-12 4th Down Conversion 0-1 1-1 2-Point Conversion 0-0 0-0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 3/1 2/1 Penalties 5-39 4-45 Posession Time 27:15 20:45 Scoring Summary FIRST QUARTER SCORING HOU NOR 6:20 (HOU) Arian Foster 4 run (N. Rackers kick) 7 0 1:36 (HOU) Derrick Ward 5 run (N. Rackers kick) 14 0 SECOND QUARTER SCORING HOU NOR 9:01 (NOR) Lance Moore 10 pass from Drew Brees (G. Hartley kick) 14 7 4:42 (HOU) Arian Foster 9 pass from Matt Schaub (N. Rackers kick) 21 7 1:55 (HOU) Neil Rackers 24 FG 24 7 THIRD QUARTER SCORING HOU NOR 7:33 (NOR) Garrett Hartley 28 FG 24 10 3:50 (NOR) Marques Colston 39 pass from Drew Brees (G. Hartley kick) 24 17 2:34 (NOR) Cameron Jordan 17 fumble return (G. Hartley kick) 24 24 FOURTH QUARTER SCORING HOU NOR 1:57 (NOR) Mark Ingram 6 run (G. Hartley kick) 24 31 Houston Texans PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Matt Schaub 24-35 261 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Arian Foster 19 93 4.8 1 Derrick Ward 5 18 3.6 1 Steve Slaton 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Andre Johnson 10 122 12.2 0 Owen Daniels 4 66 16.5 0 Kevin Walter 4 32 8.0 0 Arian Foster 3 11 3.6 1 Jacoby Jones 2 15 7.5 0 James Casey 1 15 15.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Connor Barwin 3 1 0 0 DeMeco Ryans 15 0 0 0 New Orleans Saints PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Drew Brees 27-38 255 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Mark Ingram 14 55 3.9 1 Korey Hall 1 7 7.0 0 Darren Sproles 2 2 1.0 0 Drew Brees 1 1 1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jimmy Graham 9 55 6.1 0 Marques Colston 5 74 14.8 1 Robert Meachem 4 37 9.2 0 Mark Ingram 4 25 6.2 0 Lance Moore 3 36 12.0 0 Darren Sproles 1 18 18.0 0 Courtney Roby 1 10 10.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Aubrayo Franklin 4 3 0 0 Cameron Jordan 4 3 0 1 Shaun Rogers 3 1 0 0 Malcolm Jenkins 11 0 0 0 Jonathan Vilma 10 0 0 0 Great game for Brees, so it looks like it's safe to say the human QB's can tolerate QBA at 5. We started out with a horrible game by a 71 OVR rookie in the rain in Pittsburgh and ended up with Brees being Brees. 0 INT for him even with the setting on 50. And a note on the previous INT's. Both of Garrard's were to MLB Demeco Ryans, and both of picks by the Eagles were by MLB Casey Matthews, one of his clearly being of the jetpack variety. Which reminded me of a suggestion I saw elsewhere- lower the jump ratings of all linebackers (which does not affect their OVR). So before this game I went into the rosters and lowered the Jump for all of the Saints and Texans linebackers by 30. No jetpack picks or knockdowns in this game. Schaub went from 50% to 68%, and I'd like to see that 68% come down a little. It was only one game, but I'm thinking the CPU QBA sweet spot may be less than what you would use with averaging accuracy ratings. I'll some testing with CPU QBA at 75 for starters. One I'm happy with what average to good QB's are doing, I'll have to play against a stinker like Tarvaris Jackson to make sure that the sub-60% QB's don't benefit from the setting. And to me it looks like the running game is dialed in.

Would you also mind posting what you are using for all of the Special Teams settings?

And RB Sub in / Sub Out?

Fatigue?

Game speed? Player Min Speed Threshold?

[JTyner]

YES.....please post the cpu vs cpu settings....

There...i asked!!!

Looking forward!

Thanks

[sascgs]

Yes I would really like to see the CPU - CPU sliders as well!!

[cusefan74]

Alright here is the cpu-vs-cpu settings I am using right now. Remember these are just for the cpu skills.

QB Accuracy-15
Pass Blocking-100
WR Catching-48

Broken Tackles-0
Run Blocking-40
Fumbles-40

Reaction Time-15
Interceptions-24
Pass Rushing-93

Reaction Time-20
Block Shedding-5
Tackling-40

Right now I am 3 games into my franchise and I am Denver and I'm 2-1. The first game against Oakland my team was crushed 44-16. Kyle Orton was 18-29 for 211 yards and a TD. Jason Campbell for Oakland was 18-30 349 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT. The rushing game was pretty good, Moreno for me was 12 carries 59 yards, and for Oakland McFadden was 19 for 124 yards and 1 TD.

Game 2 was the Bengals and it was a shootout with Denver winning 38-35. Orton was 20-24 for 324 yards and 3 TDs and 1 INT. I know some people think the QB accuracy is to low, well you can see its not. The Bengals had Gradkowski starting and he started like 9-9 before missing a pass. After that it kind of fell apart for him, he finished 22-37 for 263 yards 3TDs and 4INTs. Again the rushing game was good Benson went 22 carries for 136 yards. Moreno had a bad game 20 carries 72 yards and a TD.

Game 3 we were in Tennessee and won 34-12. The Titans had Locker playing, Hasselbeck was hurt(big surprise, right?) He wasn't to bad 16-25 178 and 2 INTs. Orton was just awful in the first half but ended up 17-31 300 yards with 3 TDs and 3 INTs. I thought Chris Johnson would go off on me, but we held him to 16 carries for 45 yards. So the running game can be stopped. For Denver Moreno was not great, but McGahee was good getting 92 yards rushing.

So all in all I think that the stats look pretty good. Like I said before I know a lot of people would think the QB accuracy is to low but its not. Orton through 3 games is completing 65% of his passes and is averaging 9.9 yards per attempt.

One other thing I know people are wondering about is sacks. I have 9 sacks in 3 games and have been sacked 7 times. McBean one of me DTs leads the team with 3 sacks. Von Miller has 2, and both came at DE. I play him there on nickle and dime defenses. Also his first sack came on a spin move not a power move. His second he just blew by the RT.

Enjoy guys I love watching these games they are fun.

[Manning2Harrison]

Quote: Originally Posted by ollie102573

Would you also mind posting what you are using for all of the Special Teams settings? And RB Sub in / Sub Out? Fatigue? Game speed? Player Min Speed Threshold?

ST, Fatigue, Threshold are unchanged from what cusefan posted.

RB sub is 89/93

Also settled on the following changes after 2 games with CPU QBA at 75:

CPU QBA: 80
CPU Pass Def. Reac.: 30
HUM INT: 10
HUM and CPU pass rush: 90

[skte1ement]

I love the challenge of making an accurate representation of an nfl game and the only way to do this without taking advantage of money plays and skill is coach mode.

The biggest issue I have always found in trying to get a realistic, challenging game with accurate box scores is yards per attempt. In the NFL the league average hovers around 7 yards per attempt, in Madden it is always drastically higher. This number is far more important than completion %. If offenses are completing passes at an NFL rate of about 63% but are averaging around 10 yards per attempt (what im guessing madden averages are) you are going to be moving the ball a hell of a lot better than when you are averaging 7 yards per attempt.

This also goes hand in hand, lower yardage attempts will result in higher completion percentages, while going down the field should drop completion %s. If there is a way to make the CPU call plays more conservatively you may see their completion % increase.

[Braves Fan]

Quote: Originally Posted by cusefan74

Alright here is the cpu-vs-cpu settings I am using right now. Remember these are just for the cpu skills. QB Accuracy-15 Pass Blocking-100 WR Catching-48 Broken Tackles-0 Run Blocking-40 Fumbles-40 Reaction Time-15 Interceptions-24 Pass Rushing-93 Reaction Time-20 Block Shedding-5 Tackling-40 Right now I am 3 games into my franchise and I am Denver and I'm 2-1. The first game against Oakland my team was crushed 44-16. Kyle Orton was 18-29 for 211 yards and a TD. Jason Campbell for Oakland was 18-30 349 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT. The rushing game was pretty good, Moreno for me was 12 carries 59 yards, and for Oakland McFadden was 19 for 124 yards and 1 TD. Game 2 was the Bengals and it was a shootout with Denver winning 38-35. Orton was 20-24 for 324 yards and 3 TDs and 1 INT. I know some people think the QB accuracy is to low, well you can see its not. The Bengals had Gradkowski starting and he started like 9-9 before missing a pass. After that it kind of fell apart for him, he finished 22-37 for 263 yards 3TDs and 4INTs. Again the rushing game was good Benson went 22 carries for 136 yards. Moreno had a bad game 20 carries 72 yards and a TD. Game 3 we were in Tennessee and won 34-12. The Titans had Locker playing, Hasselbeck was hurt(big surprise, right?) He wasn't to bad 16-25 178 and 2 INTs. Orton was just awful in the first half but ended up 17-31 300 yards with 3 TDs and 3 INTs. I thought Chris Johnson would go off on me, but we held him to 16 carries for 45 yards. So the running game can be stopped. For Denver Moreno was not great, but McGahee was good getting 92 yards rushing. So all in all I think that the stats look pretty good. Like I said before I know a lot of people would think the QB accuracy is to low but its not. Orton through 3 games is completing 65% of his passes and is averaging 9.9 yards per attempt. One other thing I know people are wondering about is sacks. I have 9 sacks in 3 games and have been sacked 7 times. McBean one of me DTs leads the team with 3 sacks. Von Miller has 2, and both came at DE. I play him there on nickle and dime defenses. Also his first sack came on a spin move not a power move. His second he just blew by the RT. Enjoy guys I love watching these games they are fun.

This is CPU vs CPU, not Coach mode correct?

[cusefan74]

Yes those are cpu vs cpu, but they are pretty close to my coach mode sliders.