KBLover's M12 Experimental Sliders, 2nd Experiment

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chedapalooza

Also u said suisham missed from 46 n 53.. I would keep playing test games against him n see if that continues or if he hits them.. Those r no gimme kicks!

In 2 games the CPU has missed every FG.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chedapalooza

Kb cab u post the sliders w specials please

Hmm? They aren't up on the first post?

Slider Settings	User	CPU (100 - U)	CPU (U)	CPU (MIXED)
QB Acc	29	71	29	71
Pass Blk	19	81	19	19
WR Catch	31	69	31	69
Break Tkl	30	70	30	30
Run Blk	23	77	23	23
Fumble	33	67	33	33
Pass Rea	26	74	26	26
Ints	35	65	35	65
Pass Rush	30	70	30	30
Run Rea	23	77	23	23
Blk Shed	23	77	23	23
Tackles	23	77	23	77
FG Power	31	69	31	31
FG Acc	24	77	24	77
Punt Power	34	66	34	34
Punt Acc	23	77	23	77
KO Power	45	55	45	55

The various CPU settings are just for people to pick how they want to rate the CPU. Nothing wrong with just going far left and far right. Whatever works for each player!

Thanks for trying them Trojan Man. I'm glad you had a good game. I'll keep an eye out on the warping/deflections. Thanks for bringing that up.

It looks like the FGs might have to be tweaked. Trojan Man, did the FG miss left/right or just always short?

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Hmm? They aren't up on the first post? Slider Settings User CPU (100 - U) CPU (U) CPU (MIXED) QB Acc 29 71 29 71 Pass Blk 19 81 19 19 WR Catch 31 69 31 69 Break Tkl 30 70 30 30 Run Blk 23 77 23 23 Fumble 33 67 33 33 Pass Rea 26 74 26 26 Ints 35 65 35 65 Pass Rush 30 70 30 30 Run Rea 23 77 23 23 Blk Shed 23 77 23 23 Tackles 23 77 23 77 FG Power 31 69 31 31 FG Acc 24 77 24 77 Punt Power 34 66 34 34 Punt Acc 23 77 23 77 KO Power 45 55 45 55 The various CPU settings are just for people to pick how they want to rate the CPU. Nothing wrong with just going far left and far right. Whatever works for each player! Thanks for trying them Trojan Man. I'm glad you had a good game. I'll keep an eye out on the warping/deflections. Thanks for bringing that up. It looks like the FGs might have to be tweaked. Trojan Man, did the FG miss left/right or just always short?

NP man. First off, I got a really good first impression from these sliders. Player matchups really seem to matter, and there's a really great balance, especially with the pass rush, which is in my opinion the hardest thing to get right with this set.

Regarding the warping, the game after the one I posted, I threw 6 INTs in a single half with Josh Freeman. I have to say that I definitely made some bad reads, but I want to see if a lot of those close throws turn into warp INTs or if it balances out in the end. I only threw 1 INT with Rogers.

The FG issue was a mixed bag. I saw one shanked right, one left, and one short. For my part, I made a 42 yarder with Robbie Gould, but it didn't look all that convincing. He's got a pretty good leg, so there might be cause to bump the power just a little, idk. I do like that the sliders don't make FGs from anywhere automatic, which has been a problem in Madden for a while.

I can't figure out where to set the CPU ST sliders separate from my own. All I'm finding is one global tab. Am I missing something there?

I'll play more tonight and post stats.

[Chedapalooza]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

OK, I just gave these a go using the HUM values to the far left and the CPU mixed values to the far right. I had a hard time figuring out which columns could/should be combined, so I went with that one. I had a great 13-7 game using GB vs. DET Rogers went 13-22-59 YDS and an INT Grant ran for 16-48, 3.0 AVG High receiver was Driver with 3-51 Hawk nabbed 9 TT 5 team sacks, 3 from the LB spots! 1 pick 6 Stafford went 21-38-253 1 INT Best went 20-95, 4.7 AVG Young nabbed 8-128 Megatron nabbed 5-64 Tulloch had 8 TT 2 team sacks The one thing that stood out is that I had 12 pass deflections. They felt warp-ish. DET only had 2. I'm thinking the INT slider needs to come down just a hair. On the whole, though, this felt like a really balanced game--first time in a long time where I felt like the pass rush for the CPU was just right.

Rodgers 13/22 for 59 yards? Is that a typo? ....

[Chedapalooza]

Lol I know they're on the front kb but which combination did u use for the game u referenced...

There's multiple combos /columns..

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chedapalooza

Lol I know they're on the front kb but which combination did u use for the game u referenced... There's multiple combos /columns..

I used the User and CPU(U) - same sliders on both sides.

[Chedapalooza]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

I used the User and CPU(U) - same sliders on both sides.

K cool thx. Will be able to test in about an hour will post results

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

Regarding the warping, the game after the one I posted, I threw 6 INTs in a single half with Josh Freeman. I have to say that I definitely made some bad reads, but I want to see if a lot of those close throws turn into warp INTs or if it balances out in the end. I only threw 1 INT with Rogers.

Holy crap - that's bad.

Maybe it's best if the CPU slider matches the User's for INTs. That would be an INT slider of 35. I could try to come up with a formula for the AI, but for now, probably best to match them up. I had an inkling this might happen when I put that 65 up there, but I didn't think the 31 catching would work either.

I guess it's a sign the QB ratings matter? Rodgers is a notch above Freeman, so I bet that tipped the scales a bit on those close calls...

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

The FG issue was a mixed bag. I saw one shanked right, one left, and one short. For my part, I made a 42 yarder with Robbie Gould, but it didn't look all that convincing. He's got a pretty good leg, so there might be cause to bump the power just a little, idk. I do like that the sliders don't make FGs from anywhere automatic, which has been a problem in Madden for a while.

Yeah, that's why I hate to change it but it looks like it's needed. No NFL kicker should really struggle to hit from 42 in terms of distance. *sigh* If the AI was better at kicking...

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

I can't figure out where to set the CPU ST sliders separate from my own. All I'm finding is one global tab. Am I missing something there?

Unfortunately...you can't. EA has combined them for whatever reason. So what you're seeing is the only ST Sliders. I need to clean that part up.

Edit: Cleaned up the ST Sliders.