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Old 08-28-2012, 05:28 PM   #9
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The only time I get beat deep is when I leave my corner on an island. As long as I leave safety help over the top it takes an elite speed receiver and high deep ball accuracy QB for me to get beat deep. I've seen Rogers and Stafford throw balls with a rediculous high trajectory and the ball just drops in over my corner, but that takes a perfect throw that even they hit at most once a game.

If I play cover 3 I tend to back my DBs up anyway because I never play cover 3 unless its third and long or near the end of the game. So I dont know if not backing them off would still cause the issue that you are seeing.

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Old 08-28-2012, 08:55 PM   #10
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Just starting up a game, I'll post a box score when finished.

My initial concerns are that ratings won't matter so much for the CPU with the QB Acc/Brk Tkl/WR Catch/Pass D Reaction/Pass Rush so high. Are you able to tell the difference in the caliber of the player you are facing?

Thanks for posting these. I just played a game where the Cowboys ran the ball on every first down they had except for one, and then followed that up with another run play about 80% of the time. It negates any fun/realism this game has to offer, so I'm hoping that these can help alleviate that frustration a lot of us are experiencing.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:22 PM   #11
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Just starting up a game, I'll post a box score when finished.

My initial concerns are that ratings won't matter so much for the CPU with the QB Acc/Brk Tkl/WR Catch/Pass D Reaction/Pass Rush so high. Are you able to tell the difference in the caliber of the player you are facing?

Thanks for posting these. I just played a game where the Cowboys ran the ball on every first down they had except for one, and then followed that up with another run play about 80% of the time. It negates any fun/realism this game has to offer, so I'm hoping that these can help alleviate that frustration a lot of us are experiencing.
I've almost played against every team in the league using these sliders and have seen stars play like themselves both in the passing game and in the running game. I was extremely dissapointed in the demo because I felt like very team played the same but I am definately not experiencing the same thing with these sliders. Let me know how it goes. I am anxious to see how these work out for others.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:33 PM   #12
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Alright, tried my first game with these sliders, exactly as they are in the op.

This game was played in my test ccm with the Seahawks, week 2 vs. the Cowboys.

Dallas Cowboys at Seattle Seahawks
Sep 16, 20121ST2ND3RD4THOTSCORE
Dallas Cowboys (0-1)0000-0
Seattle Seahawks (1-0)73130-23
Team Stats Comparison

DALSEA
Total Offense245316
Rushing Yards52183
Passing Yards193133
First Downs1113
Punt Return Yards2170
Kick Return Yards2225
Total Yards288411
Turnovers20
3rd Down Converstion5-173-12
4th Down Conversion1-20-0
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals0/02/1
Penalties2-20yds3-25yds
Posession Time31:3228:28
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGDALSEA
1:05(SEA) B.Browner, returned interception 78 Yds07
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGDALSEA
12:43(SEA) S.Hauschka, 20 Yd FG010
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGDALSEA
5:45(SEA) L.Washington, 3 Yd run017
0:00(SEA) S.Rice 3 Yd pass from R.Wilson023
Dallas Cowboys
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
T.Romo23/3321902
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
D.Murray16322.00
F.Jones5122.40
P.Tanner284.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
J.Witten610016.60
M.Austin6569.30
K.Ogletree33010.00
D.Murray3113.60
D.Bryant2147.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
P.McQuistan10
4 others05
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
D.Ware71.000
S.Lee70.000
M.Jenkins50.000
K.Wilber41.000
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
D.Bailey0/00/00-
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
C.Henry832941.10
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
F.Jones12222.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
D.Bryant4215.20
Seattle Seahawks
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
R.Wilson10/2014010
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
M.Lynch281264.50
L.Washington3186.01
R.Wilson23718.50
M.Robinson122.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
B.Edwards46616.50
S.Rice24623.01
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
Z.Miller10
D.Lutui01
F.Omiyale01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
K.Chancellor90.000
K.J. Wright60.000
E.Thomas50.000
R.Bryant32.000
G.Scruggs11.000
A.Branch31.000
C.Clemons11.000
R.Sherman30.010
B.Browner30.011
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
S.Hauschka1/22/3421
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
J.Ryan622437.31
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
L.Washington12525.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
L.Washington57014.00


Since I complained about the run-pass ratio before I will start with that. It was a decent mix early for the Cowboys, a little predictable with running the ball frequently on first down early, but abandoned that in the 2nd half once they were down a couple of scores. Overall, they ran 10 rushing plays on their 21 first down attempts.

Not bad, but I wish they were more aggressive on first downs earlier in the game. A nice thing to see was that they came out and ran the ball on 3 first down's in a row - And then later in the drive, on the 4th first down attempt, they ran a nice PA Pass that Romo completed to Witten for 25 Yds. Most of the players on my D bit on the fake leaving Witten wide open, pretty awesome.

Romo wasn't automatic, which I was a bit fearful of with the QB Acc being so high for the CPU. He was still good for the most part, and took some risks down the field that resulted in an INT and a couple of close calls, which falls in line with him playing like his real life counterpart. The other INT he threw was off of a screen, my DB was sitting in front of Austin and he still tried to force it in there. Ugh.

With that said, I was pretty happy with the CPU passing game overall, I just wish the Cowboys were a bit more aggressive.

Overall there were 5 drops in the game, very reasonable. One each for Edwards, Tate and Austin. The other two came off the hands of Demarco Murray. Oh, and Sidney Rice had an awesome jumping grab in the end zone off of a goal line fade, so it was nice to see him utilizing his size in the red zone.

I was not happy with the Cowboys rushing attack, a lot of this could be attributed to the fact that the majority of their runs came out of predictable formations and downs. Short/no gains on 1st and 2nd down led to a lot of 3rd and long scenarios for their offense. 23 rushes for 52 yards overall from their RB's.

Human passing felt good, a solid amount of over throws and off target passes from Russell Wilson. He also completed a string of 7 straight completions, so it was also nice to see him be able to get in a rhythm and string together some successful tosses.

Human rushing might have been a bit overpowered. I know the Seahawks are a great running team, but I had a few injuries (in week 1) on the offensive line and had to plug in some pretty poor offensive lineman. On this same note, I didn't think the Cowboys got enough pass rush on my depleted O-Line.

There were a lot of things I liked about the game. The pick six and a red zone interception were definitely the turning points, so I think it could have turned out differently despite the lopsided final score.

I'll keep testing these out man. Thanks again for posting them.

Edit: Forgot to mention - I had a FG attempt and an XP attempt that were both shanked, they went a total of 5 Yds each. The game was played in the rain, I just thought I would let you know since you mentioned on the OP that you experienced some anomalies with special teams in rainy games.

Also, FWIW, I did see Dez Bryant get in at RB for one play. It was only one play so it wasn't a big deal, but I thought it might be worth mentioning.
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skow, how'd you get the boxscore to copy so nicely?

Whe I filled it out and copied/pasted it, it came out strange looking
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skow, how'd you get the boxscore to copy so nicely?

Whe I filled it out and copied/pasted it, it came out strange looking
Magic?

Haha I'm not quite sure man. I'm assuming you're using the OS Table Generator? I just copied/pasted the HTML address it provided in a response after creating the box score.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:33 AM   #15
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Same sliders as OP. I played as the Seahawks in my test CC.

Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks
Sep 23, 20121ST2ND3RD4THOTSCORE
Green Bay Packers (2-0)00721-28
Seattle Seahawks (2-0)07321-31
Team Stats Comparison

GNBSEA
Total Offense474389
Rushing Yards6199
Passing Yards413290
First Downs1216
Punt Return Yards1764
Kick Return Yards2645
Total Yards517498
Turnovers52
3rd Down Converstion3-142-16
4th Down Conversion1-21-1
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals0/03/1
Penalties2-20yds4-40yds
Posession Time26:3533:25
Scoring Summary
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGGNBSEA
7:30(SEA) R.Wilson, 6 Yd run07
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGGNBSEA
11:02(SEA) S.Hauschka, 29 Yd FG010
3:17(GNB) D.Driver 33 Yd pass from A.Rodgers710
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGGNBSEA
13:21(GNB) G.Jennings 40 Yd pass from A.Rodgers1410
9:36(SEA) L.Washington, 12 Yd run1417
4:35(GNB) G.Jennings 55 Yd pass from A.Rodgers2117
4:17(SEA) S.Rice 74 Yd pass from R.Wilson2124
1:24(SEA) S.Rice 8 Yd pass from R.Wilson2131
0:41(GNB) J.Starks 60 Yd pass from A.Rodgers2831
Green Bay Packers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
A.Rodgers22/3244141
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
C.Benson22442.00
J.Starks3134.30
A.Rodgers242.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
D.Driver67913.11
G.Jennings515631.22
J.Finley37525.00
J.Nelson34715.60
D.Williams11818.00
J.Starks16060.01
C.Benson11010.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
J.Saturday11
B.Bulaga10
T.Lang01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
C.Woodson80.000
N.Perry71.000
M.Burnett60.000
D.Bishop60.000
D.House50.000
T.Williams41.000
C.Hayward10.010
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
M.Crosby0/04/44-
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
T.Masthay624941.50
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
J.Nelson12626.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
T.Williams21717.00
Seattle Seahawks
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
R.Wilson24/3631421
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
M.Lynch30862.80
L.Washington2115.51
R.Wilson320.61
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
B.Edwards56813.60
S.Rice511723.42
K.Winslow56913.80
G.Tate3186.00
M.Robinson2126.00
M.Lynch242.00
D.Baldwin11818.00
J.Edelman188.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
A.Barron01
M.Lynch01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
K.Chancellor60.000
B.Wagner60.000
E.Thomas60.000
A.Branch21.000
B.Mebane21.000
B.Browner40.010
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
S.Hauschka1/24/4730
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
J.Ryan1043343.34
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
L.Washington24120.50
S.Rice144.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
L.Washington66410.60


I don't have time for an extensive write up.

Started off with more of the same. Lot's of runs on 1st down by the Packers which proved to be ineffective, yet they kept on turning to it. Their initial 5 1st down plays were all runs. 7 of their first 9 were runs, 8 of 13 total in the 1st half. That led to a meh offense for the Pack. Lots of 3rd and longs.

It was a defensive game until all hell broke loose in the 3rd, when the Pack started turning to the passing game often. I suddenly found myself in a shootout and Russell Wilson was GAME. Crazy numbers by both QB's. It was quite fun!

CPU run game continues to disappoint. I was happy to find myself struggling on the ground, BJ Raji and Charles Woodson were making themselves noticed, disrupting plays in the backfield.

Eventually pulled this one out. If the Packers would have just been aggressive out of the gate then I would have most likely lost this game.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:12 AM   #16
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I am starting to see the same thing as you in CCM. The CPU running game just isn't as strong in CCM as it is in Play Now with the same sliders.

I also agree about the CPU offense not being aggressive enough in the air early for teams that should be and sometimes is with teams that in my opinion shouldn't be. I just played Baltimore and they threw on first down 3 of their first 4 possessions. Would love to see this with Green Bay but not really with Baltimore with Rice in the backfield.

Until EA (hopefully) patches the playcalling I am not sure how much better that aspect is going to get.
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