Charter04's Madden 13 All-Madden Sim Sliders

[pdiehm]

Quote: Originally Posted by PrimetimeUTK

Charter, I must say that your sliders gave me a whole new experience in Madden13. I started an online CCM, and played the first pre-season game, so will try things out in a regular season game when I get home tonight, but this game was the most competitive game I've had. The CPU was definitely able to rush on me. They went over 100+, probably closer to 130 or so, with a YPC avg of over 4, so that was the biggest thing I was looking for. I had to get used to playing on Normal speed, as I've gotten so used to Slow. But I actually liked the faster feel normal brought. The only issue I had was some things with HUM Pass defense (I had the pass reaction slider at 50). There were a few passes where my CBs just got flat out beat bad or didn't even really stay with WR once ball was hiked, leading to 2-3 deep wide open throws by the CPU. Also, the CPU ran the ball more than they probably should have. Probably 40 runs to 24 passes. They were the Seahawks, so I'd expect closer to a 50:50 ratio, maybe a few more runs than passes. What do you think I should do with Pass Reaction slider for human? Go up to 60 and see what happens, go all the way up to that 90 spot? or what? The CPU run game can go down a tad, and I really need my Pass Def to be a little more aware. Thanks!!! Your set may have finally gotten me to a point where I'm willing to start my "real" CCM!!!

Have you watched any seahawks games?

As a seahawks fan, take a look at their QB's and WR's. There is absolutely no reason...NONE that they should be throwing more than 25-27 times a game.

40 runs and 24 passes is absolutely perfect for the seahawks. If anything, the number of plays is wrong, but the overall ratio...is absolutely dead on. They have good runningbacks, and a better run blocking line than pass blocking line.

[pdiehm]

I just had a slugfest with the 49ers.

I am actually shaking my head at those who say the CPU doesn't run enough. IMO, the playcalling for the 49ers was perfect in this game. If you want to say the CPU isn't effective running the ball, I'll go with that, but they just ran it, 37 times against me.

What is concerning is it's another road game, and my WR's had 7 drops (I continue to believe that certain ratings drop in road games, which is fine, but it'd be nice to know that so one could set the sliders to account for that).

Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers
Oct 18, 2012	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Seattle Seahawks (6-1 (3-0))	0	0	3	7	10
San Francisco 49ers (4-3 (0-1))	2	7	0	0	9

Team Stats Comparison
	SEA	SFO
Total Offense	271	210
Rushing Yards	123	82
Passing Yards	148	128
First Downs	14	9
Punt Return Yards	51	58
Kick Return Yards	22	22
Total Yards	344	290
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	9/18	5/16
4th Down Conversion	0/0	0/0
2-Point Conversion	0/0	0/0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/1/1	0/0/0
Penalties	4/25	1/7
Posession Time	31:21	28:39

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		SEA	SFO
14:51	(SFO) Team Safety	2	0
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		SEA	SFO
1:05	(SFO) R. Moss 31 Yd pass from A. Smith (D. Akers kick)	9	0
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		SEA	SFO
2:42	(SEA) S. Hauschka, 18 Yd FG	9	3
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		SEA	SFO
8:55	(SEA) K. Durham 9 Yd pass from M. Flynn (S. Hauschka kick)	9	10

Seattle Seahawks PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M. Flynn 17/29 183 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Lynch 27 95 3.5 0 R. Turbin 4 18 4.5 0 M. Flynn 2 10 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD G. Tate 4 46 11.5 0 S. Rice 4 29 7.2 0 B. Edwards 4 38 9.5 0 K. Durham 1 9 9.0 1 C. Morrah 1 3 3.0 0 D. Baldwin 1 7 7.0 0 K. Winslow 1 11 11.0 0 M. Lynch 1 40 40.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK R. Okung 2 0 M. Unger 2 0 B. Giacomini 1 0 D. Lutui 0 2 A. Barron 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD K. Wright 9 0.0 0 0 E. Thomas 8 0.0 1 0 L. Hill 7 0.0 0 0 B. Wagner 4 0.0 0 0 K. Chancellor 4 0.0 0 0 B. Browner 2 0.0 0 0 M. Trufant 2 0.0 0 0 B. Maxwell 2 0.0 0 0 C. Clemons 1 0.0 0 0 C. Maragos 1 0.0 0 0 W. Guy 1 0.0 0 0 J. Jones 1 0.0 0 0 R. Bryant 1 0.0 0 0 B. Mebane 1 1.0 0 0 A. Branch 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Hauschka 1/1 1/1 4 18 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J. Ryan 8 319 39.9 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD G. Tate 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD L. Washington 5 51 10.2 0

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Smith 10/19 129 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD F. Gore 33 81 2.5 0 B. Jacobs 2 0 0.0 0 M. Crabtree 1 1 1.0 0 B. Miller 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Manningham 4 25 6.5 0 V. Davis 2 27 13.5 0 R. Moss 2 51 25.5 1 M. Crabtree 1 24 24.0 0 B. Jacobs 1 1 1.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK M. Lupati 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD P. Willis 14 1.0 0 0 R. McDonald 6 2.0 0 0 N. Bowman 6 0.0 0 0 J. Smith 6 1.0 0 0 D. Goldson 5 0.0 0 0 C. Rogers 4 0.0 0 0 A. Brooks 4 0.0 0 0 C. Culliver 2 0.0 0 0 C. Jones 2 0.0 0 0 P. Haralson 2 0.0 0 0 I. Williams 1 0.0 0 0 T. Brock 1 0.0 0 0 D. McBath 1 0.0 0 0 D. Whitner 1 0.0 0 0 R. Jean Francois 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG D. Akers 0/1 1/1 1 -- PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 A. Lee 8 323 40.4 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD L. James 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD P. Cox 5 58 11.6 0

[MarcD]

This is game one of my online Connected Careers. I am a Lions fan, but am playing with 3 other friends, and we are all NFC North teams. I took the last team available which was the Packers.

Notes

I used 8 minute quarters with play clock running down to 15 seconds.

Patrick Willis forced two fumbles on big hits to James Starks, both of which were recovered by Ahmad Brooks.

Very good game -- It was tied with just under 3 minutes left on the clock, and I punted it away. David Akers missed a 51 yard field goal to take the lead, and I capitalized on that by driving down the field to kick a game winning field goal as time expired.

15 of Frank Gore's 29 rushing yards came on one play. I'm not sure if it's just my run defense or what, but he couldn't really get anything going.

San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers
Sep 9, 2012	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Francisco 49ers (0-0)	7	3	3	8	21
Green Bay Packers (0-0)	7	0	7	10	24

Team Stats Comparison
	SFO	GNB
Total Offense	349	348
Rushing Yards	50	120
Passing Yards	299	228
First Downs	12	8
Punt Return Yards	23	4
Kick Return Yards	24	132
Total Yards	396	484
Turnovers	0	2
3rd Down Converstion	5	3
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	1	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	100%	100%
Penalties	0	0
Posession Time	20:54	11:06

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Alex Smith 16/23 307 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Frank Gore 18 29 1.6 0 Alex Smith 2 19 9.5 0 Bruce Miller 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Vernon Davis 5 63 12.6 1 Randy Moss 5 146 29.2 0 Michael Jenkins 3 13 4.3 0 Bruce Miller 2 11 5.5 0 Michael Crabtree 1 74 74.0 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Joe Staley 1 0 Mike Iupati 0 0 Erik Cook 1 0 Leonard Davis 0 1 Anthony Davis 0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Patrick Willis 5 0 0 0 Darcel McBath 4 0 0 0 Ahmad Brooks 4 1 0 0 Donte Whitner 3 0 0 0 Tramaine Brock 2 0 0 0 Parys Haralson 2 1 0 0 Chris Culliver 2 0 0 0 Justin Smith 1 0 0 0 Carlos Rogers 1 0 0 0 Larry Grant 1 0 0 0 Ray McDonald 1 0 0 0 NaVorro Bowman 1 0 0 0 Dashon Goldson 0 0 0 0 Isaac Sopoaga 0 0 0 0 Aldon Smith 0 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG David Akers 2/3 1/1 7 21 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Andy Lee 3 130 43.3 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD LaMichael James 1 24 24.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Perrish Cox 2 23 11.5 0

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Aaron Rodgers 9/14 248 3 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD James Starks 14 117 8.4 0 Aaron Rodgers 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jermichael Finley 4 175 43.8 2 Jordy Nelson 3 36 12.0 0 Donald Driver 1 36 36.0 1 John Kuhn 1 1 1.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Bryan Bulaga 0 0 T.J. Lang 2 0 Jeff Saturday 0 0 Josh Sitton 0 1 Marshall Newhouse 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Tramon Williams 6 0 0 0 Clay Matthews 5 0 0 0 Morgan Burnett 4 0 0 0 Brad Jones 4 0 0 0 B.J. Raji 4 1 0 0 Charles Woodson 3 0 0 0 Desmond Bishop 3 0 0 0 Luis Castillo 2 0 0 0 Sam Shields 2 0 0 0 Davon House 1 0 0 0 Erik Walden 1 1 0 0 D.J. Smith 1 0 0 0 Jarrett Bush 1 0 0 0 Jarius Wynn 1 0 0 0 A.J. Hawk 0 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Mason Crosby 1/1 3/3 6 24 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Tim Masthay 2 94 47.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Randall Cobb 5 132 26.4 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Randall Cobb 1 4 4.0 0

I'll post game stats for the entire season, if you want me to. We're in week 4 currently.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarcD

This is game one of my online Connected Careers. I am a Lions fan, but am playing with 3 other friends, and we are all NFC North teams. I took the last team available which was the Packers. Notes I used 8 minute quarters with play clock running down to 15 seconds. Patrick Willis forced two fumbles on big hits to James Starks, both of which were recovered by Ahmad Brooks. Very good game -- It was tied with just under 3 minutes left on the clock, and I punted it away. David Akers missed a 51 yard field goal to take the lead, and I capitalized on that by driving down the field to kick a game winning field goal as time expired. 15 of Frank Gore's 29 rushing yards came on one play. I'm not sure if it's just my run defense or what, but he couldn't really get anything going. San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers Sep 9, 2012 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE San Francisco 49ers (0-0) 7 3 3 8 21 Green Bay Packers (0-0) 7 0 7 10 24 Team Stats Comparison SFO GNB Total Offense 349 348 Rushing Yards 50 120 Passing Yards 299 228 First Downs 12 8 Punt Return Yards 23 4 Kick Return Yards 24 132 Total Yards 396 484 Turnovers 0 2 3rd Down Converstion 5 3 4th Down Conversion 0 0 2-Point Conversion 1 0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 100% 100% Penalties 0 0 Posession Time 20:54 11:06 San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Alex Smith 16/23 307 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Frank Gore 18 29 1.6 0 Alex Smith 2 19 9.5 0 Bruce Miller 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Vernon Davis 5 63 12.6 1 Randy Moss 5 146 29.2 0 Michael Jenkins 3 13 4.3 0 Bruce Miller 2 11 5.5 0 Michael Crabtree 1 74 74.0 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Joe Staley 1 0 Mike Iupati 0 0 Erik Cook 1 0 Leonard Davis 0 1 Anthony Davis 0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Patrick Willis 5 0 0 0 Darcel McBath 4 0 0 0 Ahmad Brooks 4 1 0 0 Donte Whitner 3 0 0 0 Tramaine Brock 2 0 0 0 Parys Haralson 2 1 0 0 Chris Culliver 2 0 0 0 Justin Smith 1 0 0 0 Carlos Rogers 1 0 0 0 Larry Grant 1 0 0 0 Ray McDonald 1 0 0 0 NaVorro Bowman 1 0 0 0 Dashon Goldson 0 0 0 0 Isaac Sopoaga 0 0 0 0 Aldon Smith 0 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG David Akers 2/3 1/1 7 21 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Andy Lee 3 130 43.3 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD LaMichael James 1 24 24.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Perrish Cox 2 23 11.5 0 Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Aaron Rodgers 9/14 248 3 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD James Starks 14 117 8.4 0 Aaron Rodgers 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jermichael Finley 4 175 43.8 2 Jordy Nelson 3 36 12.0 0 Donald Driver 1 36 36.0 1 John Kuhn 1 1 1.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Bryan Bulaga 0 0 T.J. Lang 2 0 Jeff Saturday 0 0 Josh Sitton 0 1 Marshall Newhouse 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Tramon Williams 6 0 0 0 Clay Matthews 5 0 0 0 Morgan Burnett 4 0 0 0 Brad Jones 4 0 0 0 B.J. Raji 4 1 0 0 Charles Woodson 3 0 0 0 Desmond Bishop 3 0 0 0 Luis Castillo 2 0 0 0 Sam Shields 2 0 0 0 Davon House 1 0 0 0 Erik Walden 1 1 0 0 D.J. Smith 1 0 0 0 Jarrett Bush 1 0 0 0 Jarius Wynn 1 0 0 0 A.J. Hawk 0 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Mason Crosby 1/1 3/3 6 24 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Tim Masthay 2 94 47.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Randall Cobb 5 132 26.4 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Randall Cobb 1 4 4.0 0 I'll post game stats for the entire season, if you want me to. We're in week 4 currently.

What number did you use for user pass defense reaction time?

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by pdiehm

I just had a slugfest with the 49ers. I am actually shaking my head at those who say the CPU doesn't run enough. IMO, the playcalling for the 49ers was perfect in this game. If you want to say the CPU isn't effective running the ball, I'll go with that, but they just ran it, 37 times against me. What is concerning is it's another road game, and my WR's had 7 drops (I continue to believe that certain ratings drop in road games, which is fine, but it'd be nice to know that so one could set the sliders to account for that). Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers Oct 18, 2012 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Seattle Seahawks (6-1 (3-0)) 0 0 3 7 10 San Francisco 49ers (4-3 (0-1)) 2 7 0 0 9 Team Stats Comparison SEA SFO Total Offense 271 210 Rushing Yards 123 82 Passing Yards 148 128 First Downs 14 9 Punt Return Yards 51 58 Kick Return Yards 22 22 Total Yards 344 290 Turnovers 1 1 3rd Down Converstion 9/18 5/16 4th Down Conversion 0/0 0/0 2-Point Conversion 0/0 0/0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 2/1/1 0/0/0 Penalties 4/25 1/7 Posession Time 31:21 28:39 Scoring Summary FIRST QUARTER SCORING SEA SFO 14:51 (SFO) Team Safety 2 0 SECOND QUARTER SCORING SEA SFO 1:05 (SFO) R. Moss 31 Yd pass from A. Smith (D. Akers kick) 9 0 THIRD QUARTER SCORING SEA SFO 2:42 (SEA) S. Hauschka, 18 Yd FG 9 3 FOURTH QUARTER SCORING SEA SFO 8:55 (SEA) K. Durham 9 Yd pass from M. Flynn (S. Hauschka kick) 9 10 Seattle Seahawks PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M. Flynn 17/29 183 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Lynch 27 95 3.5 0 R. Turbin 4 18 4.5 0 M. Flynn 2 10 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD G. Tate 4 46 11.5 0 S. Rice 4 29 7.2 0 B. Edwards 4 38 9.5 0 K. Durham 1 9 9.0 1 C. Morrah 1 3 3.0 0 D. Baldwin 1 7 7.0 0 K. Winslow 1 11 11.0 0 M. Lynch 1 40 40.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK R. Okung 2 0 M. Unger 2 0 B. Giacomini 1 0 D. Lutui 0 2 A. Barron 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD K. Wright 9 0.0 0 0 E. Thomas 8 0.0 1 0 L. Hill 7 0.0 0 0 B. Wagner 4 0.0 0 0 K. Chancellor 4 0.0 0 0 B. Browner 2 0.0 0 0 M. Trufant 2 0.0 0 0 B. Maxwell 2 0.0 0 0 C. Clemons 1 0.0 0 0 C. Maragos 1 0.0 0 0 W. Guy 1 0.0 0 0 J. Jones 1 0.0 0 0 R. Bryant 1 0.0 0 0 B. Mebane 1 1.0 0 0 A. Branch 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Hauschka 1/1 1/1 4 18 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J. Ryan 8 319 39.9 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD G. Tate 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD L. Washington 5 51 10.2 0 San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Smith 10/19 129 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD F. Gore 33 81 2.5 0 B. Jacobs 2 0 0.0 0 M. Crabtree 1 1 1.0 0 B. Miller 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Manningham 4 25 6.5 0 V. Davis 2 27 13.5 0 R. Moss 2 51 25.5 1 M. Crabtree 1 24 24.0 0 B. Jacobs 1 1 1.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK M. Lupati 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD P. Willis 14 1.0 0 0 R. McDonald 6 2.0 0 0 N. Bowman 6 0.0 0 0 J. Smith 6 1.0 0 0 D. Goldson 5 0.0 0 0 C. Rogers 4 0.0 0 0 A. Brooks 4 0.0 0 0 C. Culliver 2 0.0 0 0 C. Jones 2 0.0 0 0 P. Haralson 2 0.0 0 0 I. Williams 1 0.0 0 0 T. Brock 1 0.0 0 0 D. McBath 1 0.0 0 0 D. Whitner 1 0.0 0 0 R. Jean Francois 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG D. Akers 0/1 1/1 1 -- PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 A. Lee 8 323 40.4 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD L. James 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD P. Cox 5 58 11.6 0

I'm glad the games are playing out different like this. I really don't want every game to be 24-21. So, this is good.

[MarcD]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

What number did you use for user pass defense reaction time?

It was 50 at the time of this game, currently just changed it to 60 (not sure if that will make them run more or not?)

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarcD

It was 50 at the time of this game, currently just changed it to 60 (not sure if that will make them run more or not?)

50 should be good. If you raise that number too much in online ccm they actually may run less.

[Hoos]

Quote: Originally Posted by bukktown

Do you guys switch on defense and manually catch on offense? Are these sliders designed for that?

My house rule is no switching at all on defense. I'll take control of a LB presnap and use him throughout the entire play. Since adopting this practice I feel as though the CPU's run game has improved greatly. Have been playing this way for a few years now.

May just be my controller needing replaced, but on offense I seem to have a problem switching to the intended receiver on pass plays. Could be the game speed (normal) as well that prevents this as the play unfolds faster than my aging stick skills can react, lol. So user catching is not an option most of the time. I will however take control of a receiver after a catch has been made. Same thing applies on running plays.