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Old 09-08-2012, 12:39 AM   #649
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Re: Charter04's Madden 13 All-Pro Sim Sliders

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CCM is an entirely new mode built from scratch was my impression unless a dev says something directly I don't think we can use last years logic or findings and the devs pretty much tell us nothing
I "agree to disagree"...

Most of Madden is carried over in one form or another over every platform...

It has worked for me, EXACTLY as I described, but hey...that's just my experience / opinion...

Throwing it out there, do with it what you will...
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:27 AM   #650
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Game 3 with Slow/55:

Cincinnati Bengals at Washington Redskins
Sep 23, 20121ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Cincinnati Bengals (1-2)7014728
Washington Redskins (3-0)32101438
Team Stats Comparison
CINWAS
Total Offense387358
Rushing Yards62139
Passing Yards325219
First Downs1119
Punt Return Yards933
Kick Return Yards115113
Total Yards511504
Turnovers31
3rd Down Converstion4/135/14
4th Down Conversion0/00/1
2-Point Conversion0/00/0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals2/2/04/3/1
Penalties3/354/40
Posession Time21:4138:19
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGCINWAS
4:21(WAS) N. Rackers, 28 yd FG03
0:45(CIN) B. Green-Ellis 92 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)73
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGCINWAS
7:52(WAS) S. Moss 11 Yd pass from R. Griffin III (N. Rackers kick)710
6:14(WAS) T. Jackson, returned interception 68 Yds (N. Rackers kick)717
0:09(WAS) P. Garcon 8 yd pass from R. Griffin III (N. Rackers kick)724
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGCINWAS
9:34(CIN) B. Green-Ellis 15 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)1424
2:21(CIN) J. Gresham 7 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)2124
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGCINWAS
14:14(CIN) A. Green 58 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)2824
2:23(WAS) R. Helu Jr 28 Yd pass from R. Griffin III (N. Rackers kick)2831
1:36(WAS) R. Doughty, returned interception 38 Yds (N. Rackers kick)2838
Cincinnati Bengals
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
A. Dalton23/3533643
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
B. Green-Ellis16533.30
B. Scott382.60
A. Dalton111.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
B. Tate5316.20
A. Green59919.81
M. Sanu56513.00
B. Green-Ellis411629.02
J. Gresham3155.01
M. Jones11010.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
A. Whitworth10
T. Wharton10
A. Collins01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
R. Nelson80.000
M. Lawson70.000
L. Hall60.000
T. Mays60.000
E. Henderson61.000
T. Howard50.000
D. Peko41.000
T. Newman40.000
N. Clements40.0.00
M. Johnson31.010
G. Iloka30.000
D. Kirkpattrick20.000
M. Jones20.000
R. Geathers20.000
B. Thompson20.000
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
M. Nugent0/04/44--
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
K. Huber728540.70
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
B. Scott37324.30
B. Tate24221.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
B. Tate199.00
Washington Redskins
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
R. Griffin III16/2224631
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
R. Helu Jr.331123.30
R. Griffin III781.10
E. Royster5193.80
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
J. Morgan46513.00
S. Moss45714.21
P. Garcon33812.61
R. Helu Jr.36120.31
F. Davis12525.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
T. Williams31
F. Davis10
J. Black10
C. Chester02
K. Lichtensteiger01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
T. Jackson80.011
B. Orakpo51.000
R. Doughty50.011
J. Wilson30.010
M. Williams30.000
P. Riley30.000
D. Hall30.000
C. Griffin30.000
B. Meriweather20.000
R. Kerrigan20.000
S. Bowen20.000
L. Fletcher10.000
C. Wilson10.000
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
N. Rackers1/15/5828
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
S. Rocca624841.33
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
B. Banks25226.00
J. Wilson36120.30
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
B. Banks4339.00



Thoughts: Finding it very difficult to get pressure on the CPU. At least registering sacks. I'm pressuring, and making the QB rush his throws, which led to 3 picks in the last game. Using the sliders verbatim except the int. Both HUM/CPU are at 30.

Also, I highly doubt Roy Helu carries the ball 32 times in any game this year. Using out at 85, in at 90, and Royster still barely comes into the game. Though gameflow for some reason was run heavy in this particular game.
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:34 AM   #651
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The slow one's are the newest. I am still working on tightening up the user run game. It's too easy for me too. Raising the user pass reaction normally increases the cpu passing ratio. Most of that is a game to game thing. If the CPU can run good they keep it up. Sometimes they run a lot even if it's not great. Sliders really can't completely fix that. As far as the break tackle slider goes, I am trying make were the CPU can still run but, not break every tackle. LOL.
Given the relationship (real or perceived) between human pass reaction and cpu play choice, have you considered toying with the human rush reaction. . .or finding a relationship between it and the pass reaction slider (i.e., 75 one and 25 the other)?
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:45 AM   #652
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Actually, this year the "Scheme" section works like "Style / Priority" used to work...

Except "Priority" has been replaced by "Importance" which you can't adjust...

Anyway:

As far back as the 2003 Prima guide it's been concluded that the "Style / Priority" section wasn't just for draft, but determines how and to what level of degree the AI controls HUM players that you're not currently controlling...

Here's a thread from last year that breaks this all down in exhaustive detail:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-schemes.html

This year's "Scheme" setting are this year's equivalent...

Game changer?

Well...yes, actually...
Funny. . .last night I was thinking along similar, but not identical, lines. I wasn't thinking so much in terms of priority and the game processor's "scheduling of cpu resource processing by position" (which is essentially what priorities were), but in terms of the game engine. I mean, this is not a game from the "bottom up" where you have 22 "thinking" little bits performing individually to form a whole experience. Rather, it is pretty much "top down", wherein players move along general behavior "tracks" (almost like rod-hockey) determined by the plays and allowed to deviate from those little tracks based upon event triggers (change of ball carrier, for instance, impacting defensive pursuit) and ratings (I think this may be why with really low sliders you see an all pro tackle move to block a LB moving to a zone along the side line...and the LT ends up dawdling along and ignoring the LOS...as well as why some people feel plays are scripted). Quite possibly, 'scheme' further refines this in some manner. (and apologies for hijacking the thread for a moment).
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Given the relationship (real or perceived) between human pass reaction and cpu play choice, have you considered toying with the human rush reaction. . .or finding a relationship between it and the pass reaction slider (i.e., 75 one and 25 the other)?
I haven't try that yet. I have had pretty good run/pass numbers personally
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Old 09-08-2012, 02:49 AM   #654
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Just got the game and am excited to use these for my CCM Ravens 'chise! Would I be better off using your normal speed ones or your slow speed? I know the slow ones are more of a work in progress but wondered if they produced better game in your opinion. Don't know if it's relevant, but I play mostly like the Ravens, power run with some PA pass and aggresive D. Thanks in advance, these look great!
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Just got the game and am excited to use these for my CCM Ravens 'chise! Would I be better off using your normal speed ones or your slow speed? I know the slow ones are more of a work in progress but wondered if they produced better game in your opinion. Don't know if it's relevant, but I play mostly like the Ravens, power run with some PA pass and aggresive D. Thanks in advance, these look great!
I would just start an online or offline (which ever you going with) CCM. Plug these in. Simulate to week one and play a game or two. Try both sets. Make sure you do all sliders including auto subs. Then decide which one. I'm leaning toward the slow speed ones but, they need a little more testing.
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I would just start an online or offline (which ever you going with) CCM. Plug these in. Simulate to week one and play a game or two. Try both sets. Make sure you do all sliders including auto subs. Then decide which one. I'm leaning toward the slow speed ones but, they need a little more testing.
Cool, thanks. What really are the differences between the two speeds in general? I know in NCAA the two speeds were two different games, but how does it change Madden?
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