Charter04's Madden 13 All-Madden Sim Sliders

[The_Pete]

Cedric Benson of the Packers had 20 rushing attempts without ever owning a lead......IN THE FIRST HALF

Slow setting/ offline CCM

Love the sliders, HATE the logic...

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by The_Pete

Cedric Benson of the Packers had 20 rushing attempts without ever owning a lead......IN THE FIRST HALF Slow setting/ offline CCM Love the sliders, HATE the logic...

Yea it's just something their going to have to update somehow. I usually don't have a lot of games like that though.

[The_Pete]

Yeah... might be because its raining but even so its overkill.

Even my gameflow has me running out the wazoo.

But I just had an animation that made my day.

Vernon Davis in the back of the endzone he jumped up, caught the pass, and looked down before touching both his tippy-toes in for a TD.....its the little things.

[The_Pete]

Big games posted by Chris Culliver with 3 Ints including a pick-6, Brandon Jacobs coming in for an injured Gore, and Ahmad Brooks abusing GB's LT for 5 SACKS!!!!

The pick-6 and the Kick offreturned for a TD had the score running high.

Slow set in offline CCM.

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San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Francisco 49ers (HUM)	7	20	14	7	48
Green Bay Packers (CPU)	3	10	0	7	23

Team Stats Comparison
	SFO	GNB
Total Offense	342	432
Rushing Yards	195	124
Passing Yards	147	308
First Downs	13	19
Punt Return Yards	41	15
Kick Return Yards	169	162
Total Yards	552	609
Turnovers	0	5
3rd Down Converstion	2-11	5-16
4th Down Conversion	0-0	1--2
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/1	1/2
Penalties	2-12	2-15
Posession Time	26:38	33:22

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
7:35	(GNB) M.Crosby 25 Yd FG	0	3
3:35	(SFO) B.Jacobs 25 Yd run	7	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
14:48	(SFO) C.Culliver returned interception 73 Yds	14	3
12:03	(SFO) D.Akers 43 Yd FG	17	3
9:59	(GNB) M.Crosby 33 Yd FG	17	6
4:59	(GNB) C.Benson 2 Yd run	17	13
1:50	(SFO) D.Akers 24 Yd FG	20	13
0:24	(GNB) M.Crosby 39 Yd FG	20	16
0:13	(SFO) T.Ginn returned kickoff 97 Yds	27	16
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
10:00	(SFO) V.Davis 10 Yd pass from A.Smith	34	16
6:41	(SFO) R.Moss returned fumble 1 Yd	41	16
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
9:44	(SFO) B.Jacobs 5 Yd run	48	16
0:12	(GNB) G.Jennings 37 Yd pass from A.Rodgers	48	23

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A.Smith 9/17 150 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD B.Jacobs 24 145 6.0 2 F.Gore 11 47 4.2 0 A.Smith 3 -6 -2.0 0 K.Hunter 1 9 9.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD V.Davis 6 115 19.1 1 F.Gore 1 4 4.0 0 D.Walker 1 12 12.0 0 R.Moss 1 19 19.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK B.Miller 2 0 J.Staley 2 0 A.Davis 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D.Whitner 12 0.0 0 0 P.Willis 9 1.0 0 0 C.Rogers 8 0.0 0 0 A.Brooks 8 5.0 0 0 D.Goldson 5 0.0 0 0 J.Smith 5 1.0 0 0 P.Haralson 4 0.0 0 0 T.Brown 3 0.0 0 0 C.Culliver 3 0.0 3 1 A.Smith 3 1.0 0 0 I.Sopoaga 2 0.0 0 0 D.McBath 2 0.0 0 0 N.Bowman 2 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG D.Akers 2/4 6/6 43 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 A.Lee 5 228 45.6 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T.Ginn 4 169 42.2 1 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T.Ginn 4 41 10.2 0

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A.Rodgers 26/40 362 1 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD C.Benson 27 123 4.5 1 A.Rodgers 1 1 1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD G.Jennings 8 165 20.6 1 J.Nelson 5 58 11.6 0 J.Finley 4 44 11.0 0 C.Benson 4 27 6.7 0 D.Driver 2 18 9.0 0 J.Jones 2 33 16.5 0 R.Cobb 1 17 17.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK T.Lang 2 0 J.Finley 1 0 M.Newhouse 0 5 B.Bulaga 0 1 J.Sitton 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D.Bishop 7 1.0 0 0 M.Burnett 6 0.0 0 0 A.Hawk 5 0.0 0 0 C.Woodson 5 0.0 0 0 C.Matthews 4 0.0 0 0 B.Jones 4 0.0 0 0 C.Wilson 3 0.0 0 0 R.Pickett 3 0.0 0 0 S.Shields 2 0.0 0 0 T.Williams 2 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M.Crosby 3/3 2/2 40 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 T.Masthay 5 213 42.6 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T.Williams 3 71 23.6 0 R.Cobb 4 91 22.7 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD R.Cobb 3 15 5.0 0

[charter04]

I made a few changes to both sets to try and get the user Rushing to be a little more difficult but, I want the run block logic to sill be good. Also made the user pass rush a little less. I am having too easy a time getting pressure on the cpu QB.

[murphyy12]

Dallas Cowboys at New York Giants
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Dallas Cowboys ()	7	6	0	7	20
New York Giants ()	3	7	7	14	31

Team Stats Comparison
	DAL	NYG
Total Offense	451	383
Rushing Yards	143	224
Passing Yards	308	159
First Downs	15	21
Punt Return Yards	23	45
Kick Return Yards	122	67
Total Yards	596	495
Turnovers	0	1
3rd Down Converstion	8-19 (42%)	3-10 (30%)
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	0/2	4/1
Penalties	5-45	3-25
Posession Time	29:25	30:35

Dallas Cowboys PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Romo 21/41 339 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Murray 26 144 5.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Austin 6 130 21.6 1 Bryant 5 135 27.0 1 Witten 3 10 3.3 0 Ogletree 3 42 14.0 0 Beasley 2 19 9.5 0 Murray 2 3 1.5 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Turk 7 34.8

New York Giants PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Manning 14/26 192 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Bradshaw 34 198 5.8 2 Wilson 2 30 15.0 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Cruz 6 93 15.5 1 Bennett 3 43 14.3 0 Nicks 3 41 13.6 0 Bradshaw 2 15 7.5 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Weatherford 6 47.6

Played this game right before you posted the new changes just now. I play in Offline CCM. Play calling I use gameplay. I used the SLOW sliders from the OP. I usually use the NORMAL sliders, but figured I would test the slow ones. Here are things I noticed:

- User running seemed too easy. Beginning was difficult, but by the 2nd half I was just carving up the defense.
- I didn't have any bad drops, but Miles Austin (AI) had a lot of wide open drops.
- The Cowboys punter was terrible. I don't know if he is just really bad in the game, or if it was something with the sliders (I doubt it). But look at his averages. I was starting on my own 40 yard line or closer the entire game.
- I felt like I could not get a good passing game going. My receivers were so slow at running routes. They would be half way through their route when pressure would come, or I would be sitting in the pocket for what seemed like ages before they would finish their routes.

- In the 4th quarter Dallas had it on my 20 yard line (so in the red zone) and I was winning 17-13 with 11 minutes left. They decided to GO FOR IT on 4th and 6. They didn't convert and I took over on downs. Then later in the 4th, with 3:30 minutes to go the Cowboys KICKED A 53 YARD FG and missed! They were down by 13 points! This made no sense to me and it pretty much ruined the game for me haha.

- Overall the game felt like it was dragging along. Maybe it is me not being used to the slow speed, but slow is what I used to always play on in other Maddens.
- Still it was kind of challenging until the 4th quarter where it seemed like Dallas just stopped playing defense.

- Still digging these sliders though I will try testing out both some more. Right now I am leaning towards normal speed.

Keep it up!

[Roncatto]

Like any Slider set, people will dismiss them because of one game, or a quarter or too small a sample to see the effects.

So i thought I'd post some stats based on the first 7 games of my Cowboys Franchise. This hopefully will show people that over a season, the game does play very well.

I played based on the slow set(prior to today's tweaks by charter) with my own tweaks.

Same as original Slow Except.

QUARTERS 15min
PLAYCLOCK 10sec

CPU BLOCK SHED 50
HUM RUN BLOCK 40
HUM TACKLE 10
PENALTIES ALL 54 (seen 2 DPI, 1 RTP and several standard facemasks, holding etc).

RESULTS
Cowboys 29 - 28 Giants (ridiculous game, go back a few pages to see why)
Cowboys 24 - 14 Seahawks
Bucs 24 - 18 Cowboys
Bears 35 - 18 Cowboys
Cowboys 35 - 6 Ravens
Cowboys 17 - 0 Panthers
Giants 30 - 22 Cowboys

OFFENSE
PASS 1774
RUSH 766
PASS TD 10
RUSH TD 6

DEFENSE
PASS 1406
RUSH 911 (CPU 130 YD's a game. THEY CAN RUN AGAINST YOU).
SACKS 23 (I'm aggressive. Just over 3 sacks a game for blitzing defense)
INT 7

Turnover Differential -10 (this is why I'm 4-3)

Anyway keep up the good work Charter. Enjoying these.

SIDE NOTE - I have changed the positional schemes to fit the players I have and it DEFINITELY has an effect.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Roncatto

Like any Slider set, people will dismiss them because of one game, or a quarter or too small a sample to see the effects. So i thought I'd post some stats based on the first 7 games of my Cowboys Franchise. This hopefully will show people that over a season, the game does play very well. I played based on the slow set(prior to today's tweaks by charter) with my own tweaks. Same as original Slow Except. QUARTERS 15min PLAYCLOCK 10sec CPU BLOCK SHED 50 HUM RUN BLOCK 40 HUM TACKLE 10 PENALTIES ALL 54 (seen 2 DPI, 1 RTP and several standard facemasks, holding etc). RESULTS Cowboys 29 - 28 Giants (ridiculous game, go back a few pages to see why) Cowboys 24 - 14 Seahawks Bucs 24 - 18 Cowboys Bears 35 - 18 Cowboys Cowboys 35 - 6 Ravens Cowboys 17 - 0 Panthers Giants 30 - 22 Cowboys OFFENSE PASS 1774 RUSH 766 PASS TD 10 RUSH TD 6 DEFENSE PASS 1406 RUSH 911 (CPU 130 YD's a game. THEY CAN RUN AGAINST YOU). SACKS 23 (I'm aggressive. Just over 3 sacks a game for blitzing defense) INT 7 Turnover Differential -10 (this is why I'm 4-3) Anyway keep up the good work Charter. Enjoying these. SIDE NOTE - I have changed the positional schemes to fit the players I have and it DEFINITELY has an effect.

This is the kind of solid feed back that I enjoy getting. You really do get a better feel for things after about 5 games. I'm glad you posted this. I'm glad you are 4-3. Ha ha. That is what I want with sim set. I don't want to win every game.