M13 KILLER SLIDERS FOR OFFLINE CCM... GUARANTEED CPU RUN GAME

[Rjrosco]

Quote: Originally Posted by ubernoob

Used these in my Browns online CCM. Note, I signed a lot of players to the 1 year deals (Farrior, Nick Collins, Castillo, etc.) so my defense is not as iffy as the normal Browns defense. I am running Green Bays offense and defensive playbooks. Used to playing on slow with All-Madden so it was a bit of a change. I also got lucky with the big plays, but nothing seemed really out of place to me. Also their playcalling was quite balanced. All 6 of Vicks run were not by design, he just broke out in total Vick fashion when the coverage went a bit too long. Philadelphia Eagles at Cleveland Browns Sep 9, 2012 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Philadelphia Eagles (0-0) 7 14 0 6 27 Cleveland Browns (0-0) 3 14 3 10 30 Team Stats Comparison PHI CLE Total Offense 402 460 Rushing Yards 198 106 Passing Yards 204 354 First Downs 19 13 Punt Return Yards 1 18 Kick Return Yards 75 111 Total Yards 478 589 Turnovers 2 2 3rd Down Converstion 6-14 (42%) 7-15 (46%) 4th Down Conversion 0-0 (0%) 1-1 (100%) 2-Point Conversion 0-0 0-0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 2/1 0/0 Penalties 1-5 1-10 Posession Time 38:13 21:47 Scoring Summary FIRST QUARTER SCORING PHI CLE 10:00 (PHI) D. Jackson 48 Yd pass from M. Vick (A. Henery kick) 7 0 6:00 (CLE) P. Dawson, 41 Yd FG 7 3 SECOND QUARTER SCORING PHI CLE 9:36 (PHI) D. Lewis, 6 Yd run (A. Henery kick) 14 3 2:47 (PHI) J. Avant 15 Yd pass from M. Vick (A. Henery kick) 21 3 0:50 (CLE) C. Mitchell 61 Yd pass from B. Weeden (P. Dawson kick) 21 10 0:14 (CLE) T. Richardson 55 Yd pass from B. Weeden (P. Dawson kick) 21 17 THIRD QUARTER SCORING PHI CLE 8:46 (CLE) P. Dawson, 44 Yd FG 21 20 FOURTH QUARTER SCORING PHI CLE 5:30 (PHI) A. Henery, 39 Yd FG 24 20 5:16 (CLE) G. Little 73 Yd pass from B. Weeden (P. Dawson kick) 24 27 0:39 (PHI) A. Henery 41 Yd FG 27 27 0:00 (CLE) P. Dawson, 39 Yd FG 27 30 Philadelphia Eagles PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Michael Vick 13/21 219 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD LeSean McCoy 26 100 3.8 0 Dion Lewis 8 36 4.5 1 Michael Vick 6 60 10.0 0 Jeremy Maclin 2 4 2.0 0 Jason Avant 1 -2 -2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jason Avant 5 53 10.6 1 DeSean Jackson 2 58 29.0 1 Chad Hall 2 55 27.5 0 Brent Celek 1 31 31.0 0 Damaris Johnson 1 5 5.0 0 David Johnson 1 7 7.0 0 Jeremy Maclin 1 10 10.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Evan Mathis 1 0 Jason Peters 1 1 Steve Vallos 0 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD DeMeco Ryans 9 0.0 0 0 Brian Rolle 6 0.0 0 0 Trent Cole 4 1.0 0 0 Nnamdi Asomugha 5 0.0 1 0 Brandon Boykin 4 2.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Alex Henery 2/2 3/3 9 41 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Mat McBriar 5 230 46.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Chad Hall 2 50 25.0 0 DeSean Jackson 1 25 25.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD DeSean Jackson 1 1 1.0 0 Cleveland Browns PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Brandon Weeden 20/30 377 3 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Trent Richardson 18 76 4.2 0 Montario Hardesty 4 6 1.5 0 Brandon Weeden 2 16 8.0 0 Owen Marecic 1 5 5.0 0 Josh Cribbs 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Josh Cribbs 8 100 12.5 0 Greg Little 6 115 19.1 1 Trent Richardson 3 85 28.3 1 Mohamed Massaquoi 1 5 5.0 0 Josh Gordon 1 11 11.0 0 Carlton Mitchell 1 61 61.0 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Jake Scott 2 0 Alex Mack 1 0 Oniel Cousins 0 1 Owen Marecic 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD James Farrior 8 1.0 0 0 Chris Gocong 8 1.0 0 0 Nick Collins 6 0.0 0 0 Dimitri Patterson 6 0.0 1 0 T.J. Ward 4 0.0 0 0 Sheldon Brown 4 0.0 1 0 Phil Taylor 3 2.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Phil Dawson 3/3 3/3 12 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Reggie Hodges 5 261 52.2 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Josh Cribbs 4 91 22.7 0 Travis Benjamin 1 20 20.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Josh Cribbs 3 18 6.0

Eagles 43 rush attempts to 21 pass attempts that's what's annoying me the most.

How is that balanced?

[tbbucsfan001]

Man another great game. Was driving at the end but I got stuffed on 4th and 2 heading into field goal range.

Kansas City Chiefs at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Oct 14, 2012	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Kansas City Chiefs (1-4)	6	7	7	3	23
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (3-1)	0	13	7	0	20

Team Stats Comparison
	KAN	TAM
Total Offense	312	293
Rushing Yards	139	129
Passing Yards	173	164
First Downs	15	15
Punt Return Yards	8	25
Kick Return Yards	51	50
Total Yards	371	368
Turnovers	3	3
3rd Down Converstion	6-15	5-13
4th Down Conversion	1-1	1-2
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/1	2/1
Penalties	2-10	4-40
Posession Time	32:32	27:28

[bukktown]

These are almost exactly what I have been using the last 2 days. I had been piecemealing parts of different slider sets on the board and they came out nearly identical to yours lol.

One MAJOR difference is that I set user rush D reaction time to 100 on a hunch. I keep playing games in a Bills test CCM with the plan to play a quarter then restart it with rush reaction set at 0. But I get so engrossed in the game I play it through to the end! And then I repeat the process the next week on the schedule.

Basically I am saying that these sliders work great for me!

[ubernoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rjrosco

Eagles 43 rush attempts to 21 pass attempts that's what's annoying me the most. How is that balanced?

It was actually 36 to 27. 4 were gimmick runs out of the Wildcat. Vick took 6 undesigned scrambles.

The rush total is a tad bit high, but not crazy. If you look at the (first, I believe) Redskins/Eagles game last year it was 38 rushes to 32 passing attempts. I think a few more tweaks can be in order to perhaps fine tune it.

I may be going too in-depth for the system here too, but they were picking up lots of first downs rushing and played almost the whole game with the lead. Not too many reasons to pass.

Game 2 against the Bengals will be underway shortly, will post what happens after the dust settles. I'll also most likely turn this into a dynasty on here.

[MarketingWiz]

Rjrosco: Respect your opinion. However, consider this. M13 delivers a potpourri of different experiences. Thus far, I have had the experience that no two games "feel" the same. For me, this is the beauty of M13. This is why I recommend that everybody play ANY slider set for at least 8 games.

Looking superficially at übernoobs game, it would seem that Andy Reid was playing a game on the road, had the lead for 3 quarters, Vick had already been picked by an improved Brown D (ubernoob admits to his improvements through free agent pick ups) so Reid felt that if he could control the clock and force the Browns to pass their way to victory, he preferred his D's chances against a rookie QB, rather than letting his suspect run defense have Trent "the Tank" Richardson ram it down their throats in the 4th quarter... Well in this one at least, Weeden was up to the challenge.

[ubernoob]

Unfortunately, as I was typing up the table for this game I lost connectivity to EA Servers, so it will have to be replayed. The Browns were the cardiac kids again in v1 against the Bengals though. Neither team could get it's rushing attack going, though BJGE had a few nice runs for the Bungles. Rey M absolutely destroyed my team. In two consecutive series (either late in the 3rd or early in the 4th) he crushed Trent Richardson after Trent broke through the line and caused a fumble. Next series, he recorded a quarterback sack and broke Trent's the next play. Dude was a monster on the field. Weeden comes through in the clutch though (kinda, as he could only muster a 30ish yard drive to get into 50 yd field goal range for the game winner. Luckily the wind was in my favor.) Nugent couldn't hit a kick to save his life.

Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
Sep 1, 2012	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Cleveland Browns (1-0)	0	3	7	10	20
Cincinnati Bengals (0-1)	7	7	0	3	17

Team Stats Comparison
	CLE	CIN
Total Offense	261	380
Rushing Yards	52	80
Passing Yards	209	300
First Downs	12	11
Punt Return Yards	28	34
Kick Return Yards	52	21
Total Yards	341	435
Turnovers	2	1
3rd Down Converstion	5-16 (31%)	7-18 (38%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/0	1/0
Penalties	1-10	1-10
Posession Time	24:37	35:23

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		CLE	CIN
8:02	(CIN) J. Gresham 75 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)	0	7
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		CLE	CIN
14:11	(CLE) P. Dawson, 43 Yd FG	3	7
10:19	(CIN) C. Pressley 9 Yd pass from A. Dalton (M. Nugent kick)	3	14
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		CLE	CIN
14:07	(CLE) T. Richardson, 1 Yd run (P. Dawson kick)	10	14
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		CLE	CIN
5:13	(CLE) J. Cribbs 57 Yd pass from B. Weeden (P. Dawson kick)	17	14
1:51	(CIN) M. Nugent, 42 Yd FG	17	17
0:00	(CLE) P. Dawson, 49 Yd FG	20	17

Cleveland Browns PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Dalton 20/35 312 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD B. Green-Ellis 23 58 2.5 0 B. Scott 6 22 3.6 0 A. Dalton 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Sanu 7 76 10.8 0 B. Tate 4 60 15.0 0 B. Green-Ellis 3 18 6.0 0 A. Green 2 58 29.0 0 C. Pressley 2 17 8.5 1 J. Gresham 2 83 41.5 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK A. Collins 2 0 T. Wharton 1 0 C. Boling 0 2 A. Whitworth 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD R. Maualuga 10 2.0 0 0 C. Dunlap 3 2.0 0 0 T. Newman 4 1.0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Nugent 1/3 2/2 5 42 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 K. Huber 8 348 43.5 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD B. Scott 1 21 21.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD B. Tate 4 34 8.5 0

Cincinnati Bengals PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B. Weeden 17/33 253 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Richardson 20 40 2.0 1 M. Hardesty 6 12 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD G. Little 7 114 16.2 0 J. Cribbs 4 78 19.5 1 T. Richardson 2 7 3.5 0 M. Massaquoi 2 31 15.5 0 B. Watson 1 13 13.0 0 M. Hardesty 1 10 10.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK S. Lauvao 1 2 O. Cousins 0 2 B. Watson 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD T. Ward 7 0 0 0 S. Fujita 7 0 0 0 E. Henderson 3 1.0 0 0 S. Ellis 2 1.0 0 0 J. Farrior 3 1.0 0 0 S. Brown 1 0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG P. Dawson 2/2 2/2 8 50 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 R. Hodges 9 486 54.0 3 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Benjamin 2 56 28.0 0 J. Cribbs 1 -4 -4.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Cribbs 3 28 9.3 0

[heelphreak]

i *think* the inflated rushing attempts is due to the relative ease with which the cpu runs the ball. with the original settings i was having to go to 5 man fronts, run commit, run blitz, everything i could possibly throw at them yet they were still grinding and bouncing their way to 6+ypc depending on opponent.

i'm all for, in fact i demand a healthy cpu run game but when i throw eight or 9 in the box and blitz every gap and they still gain yards in chunks why would they stop handing it off?

all that being said i know absolutely nothing about the play calling logic in the game code.

[heelphreak]

with the tweaks i posted on the previous page rushing attempts and ypc were more realistic. *but* that was only one game and admittedly the cpu stopped running because i was ahead so more games are needed to feel good about those numbers.