M13 KILLER SLIDERS FOR OFFLINE CCM... GUARANTEED CPU RUN GAME

[MarketingWiz]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianU

Indeed. I am a fan of MLB2k12 using MKHarshs sliders and he has the same mentality of boosting the CPU enough to make it fearsome. He jacks the CPU Contact and Power to basically 100 and makes you think about every pitch. I like having the CPU Running Game maxed out and CPU Interceptions high/Pass coverage tight as in this set to get that same feel. The CPU AI in sports games will never be able to adapt as well as a human thankfully sliders came along and lets us create the challenge we want. I can't play games like Skyrim or Zelda like I used to be able to growing up, Now I live and die with sports games on steroid difficulty to get my fix

What a hooot.... I play MLB the Show.... Man that game has gotten addicting.... Probably the absolute best sports sim game EVER created.... If only EA Sports could learn something from Sony...

[BrianU]

I made a new house rule for myself in regards to the USER passing. I was getting frustrated by how easy the Curl/Flat combo play is to complete. You can jack CPU Interceptions to 100, put QB Accuracy 0, WR Catching 40, CPU Pass Defense 0 and still march down the field with one play. I realized no slider will change that and I need to change my own play style.

I like having the whole playbook available to me so rather than going Gameflow or Ask madden on offense I decided I will force myself to not pick the same play twice on any drive as well as never pick the Curl/Flat combo play. I might even extend it to every 2 or 3 drives but for now i'll go with 1.

Just knowing that Curl/Flat play exists makes it hard to not pick it when I really need a 1st down on a 3rd and whatever. House rules make this game so much better and more strategic. It adds to the strategy when you have to decide when to use one of your 'better' plays, should you save it for a third and long or use it later in the redzone?

Anyone have other plays they limit themselves from calling or avoid altogether? Gonna go make a thread about this just sharing my knowledge with like-minded peeps first. I naturally don't call Verticals so I don't have any experience with that and i've found that in the past slant and drag routes were close to money but with the proper sliders they aren't that way anymore so I am happy about that.

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Green Bay Packers at St. Louis Rams
Jan 5, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Green Bay Packers ()	14	13	0	6	33
St. Louis Rams ()	3	7	6	7	23

Team Stats Comparison
	GNB	STL
Total Offense	381	280
Rushing Yards	163	34
Passing Yards	218	246
First Downs	17	15
Punt Return Yards	19	30
Kick Return Yards	0	22
Total Yards	400	332
Turnovers	2(+3)	5(-3)
3rd Down Converstion	6-16	7-13
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-1
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	0/2	1/2
Penalties	1-10	2-15
Posession Time	33:08	26:52

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		GNB	STL
12:53	(GNB) B. Jones, returned fumble 27 yards (M.Crosby kick)	7	0
8:04	(GNB) J. Nelson 29 Yd pass from A. Rodgers (M. Crosby kick)	14	0
2:24	(STL) G. Zuerlein, 54 Yd FG	14	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		GNB	STL
11:38	(GNB) M. Crosby, 27 Yd FG	17	3
6:42	(GNB) M. Crosby, 47 Yd FG	20	3
4:33	(STL) M. Daniels, returned interception 103 Yds (G. Zuerlein kick)	20	10
4:25	(GNB) B. Saine 80 Yd pass from A. Rodgers (M. Crosby kick)	27	10
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		GNB	STL
7:34	(STL) G. Zuerlein, 49 Yd FG	27	13
0:05	(STL) G. Zuerlein, 25 Yd FG	27	16
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		GNB	STL
10:34	(STL) B. Quick 14 Yd pass from S. Bradford (G. Zuerlein kick)	27	23
5:29	(GNB) M. Crosby, 41 Yd FG	30	23
1:38	(GNB) M. Crosby, 28 Yd FG	33	23

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Rodgers 15/24 234 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Starks 34 152 4/4 0 A. Green 4 1 0.2 0 J. Kuhn 2 8 4.0 0 A. Rodgers 2 2 1.0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Starks 4 31 7.7 0 J. Nelson 4 80 20.0 1 J. Kuhn 2 7 3.5 0 J. Jones 1 11 11.0 0 J. Finley 1 6 6.0 0 B. Saine 1 80 80.0 1 A. Green 1 6 6.0 0 D. Driver 1 13 13.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK B. Bulaga 2 1 J. Sitton 2 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD M. Burnett 8 0 0 0 N. Perry 5 2 0 0 T. Williams 4 0 0 0 D. Bishop 4 0 0 0 J. Leonhard 4 0 0 0 C. Matthews 4 0 0 0 C. Woodson 3 0 1 0 A. Hawk 3 0 0 0 B.J. Raji 2 0 0 0 J. McMillan 2 0 0 0 S. Shields 2 1 1 0 R. Pickett 2 0 0 0 B. Jones 2 1 0 1 D.J. Smith 1 0 0 0 V. So'oto 1 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Crosby 4/4 3/3 15 48 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 T. Masthay 4 219 54.7 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD R. Cobb 0 0 0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD R. Cobb 1 19 19.0 0

St. Louis Rams PASSING C/A YDS TD INT S. Bradford 26/35 281 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S. Jackson 19 34 1.7 0 I. Pead 2 2 1.0 S. Bradford 1 -2 -2.0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD B. Quick 7 79 11.2 1 S. Smith 6 61 10.1 0 L. Kendricks 5 60 12.0 0 S. Jackson 4 18 4.5 0 C. Givens 2 25 12.5 0 D. Amendola 2 38 19.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK M. McNeill 1 0 B. Richardson 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J. Laurinaitis 7 0 0 0 D. Stewart 6 0 0 0 Q. Mikell 5 0 0 0 C. Long 5 1.0 0 0 M. Brockers 5 1.0 0 0 C. Finnegan 4 0 1 0 K. Langford 4 0 0 0 J. Jenkins 3 0 0 0 J. Murphy 3 0 0 0 R. McIntosh 3 0 0 0 J. Dunbar 3 0 0 0 B. Fletcher 2 0 0 0 W. Hayes 2 0 0 0 R. Quinn 1 0 0 0 M. Daniels 0 0 1 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG G. Zuerlein 3/3 2/2 11 55 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J. Hekker 2 93 46.5 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD G. Givens 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD G. Givens 2 30 15.0 0

So here was my divisional game I mentioned earlier. Got beat by a better Packers team in the end. It was a great game though. Rams got off to an awful start fumbling on the first drive around the 20 yard line to be run back for a td. Rodgers came out and lit the place up in the first half but the Rams D came out inspired after ht.

It wasnt quite enough though. I couldn't get the run established and paid for it in the end.

Beautiful feel to the game though. It ebbed and flowed just like a real game. Momentum seemed to be very important. For example, I was getting some going in the 3rd, with some great defensive play, scored a TD and then just got killed by a bad playcall as Rodgers hit a bomb over the top of my all out blitz! Killed the momentum completely!

A quick note on kick returns - I tuned up the kick off power a bit as I thought it a bit unrealistic that kickers were only kicking it a yard or two into the end zone with full power kicks!

[ResilentGiant]

Gotta say man, AWESOME SLIDERS! Gameplay feels so realistic and got some great stats. However is there any way of changing either fatigue or Auto Sub settings to stop my oline from subbing in all the time? I thought it worked well on D though, good line rotation and guys getting tired on long drives. Another thing to point out is that I think I might be getting a bit too many INT's on D. Just played a game Giants(me) vs Cowboys(CPU) and Romo threw 3 picks, and me 2. I'm not too bothered bout the 2 I threw because I made bad calls both times, but the CPU QB's seem to be total Gunslingers haha anyway gd job man, I appreciate all the hard work you've put in

[pdiehm]

If you do NOT use the stick to control the pass, you absolutely have to raise this slider up to 8.

I am completely inept in terms of total control passing, so I don't even bother. I pick a receiver and then use the passer ratings to complete the pass without my help.

[tc020791]

Wow what can I say besides what another great game with these sliders. It was a really tough grind it out game that had everything including a pick six, a punt return for a TD, and a potential hail mary for the win on the last play of the game. Also it doesnt say in the box score but SD 1 sack and Bmore had 0 which was really the only issue in the game.

One quick note on some house rules I used for this game:

1. On passing plays I stuck to one defender, no switching

2. On rushing plays I stuck to one defender until that defender either missed the tackle or got blocked backside (virtually out of the play)

3. On offense I did conventional play calling and tried to mix it up by rarely calling the same play on one drive.

4. Also tried to limit the amount of times I ran to the out side. (About 5 times all game.)

5. On kicking I only used the right stick which can get somewhat interesting.

Baltimore Ravens at San Diego Chargers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Baltimore Ravens (ME)	7	0	10	9	26
San Diego Chargers (CPU)	0	12	7	13	32

Team Stats Comparison
	BAL	SDG
Total Offense	356	380
Rushing Yards	125	193
Passing Yards	231	187
First Downs	14	13
Punt Return Yards	104	54
Kick Return Yards	133	123
Total Yards	593	557
Turnovers	3(-2)	1(+2)
3rd Down Converstion	3-12 (25%)	6-19 (31%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-1	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/2 (3-3)	1/1 (2-2)
Penalties	5-50	7-65
Posession Time	19:11	40:49

Baltimore Ravens PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Flacco 18/38 240 1 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Rice 20 164 6.2 1 Leach 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Pitta 6 52 8.6 1 Smith 5 112 22.4 0 Rice 3 29 9.6 0 Boldin 2 20 10.0 0

San Diego Chargers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Rivers 19/32 187 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Matthews 31 157 5.0 1 R. Brown 8 32 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Gates 5 41 8.2 0 Floyd 4 83 20.7 1 Royal 4 28 7.0 0 Meachem 2 31 15.5 0

[MarketingWiz]

Quote: Originally Posted by ResilentGiant

Gotta say man, AWESOME SLIDERS! Gameplay feels so realistic and got some great stats. However is there any way of changing either fatigue or Auto Sub settings to stop my oline from subbing in all the time? I thought it worked well on D though, good line rotation and guys getting tired on long drives. Another thing to point out is that I think I might be getting a bit too many INT's on D. Just played a game Giants(me) vs Cowboys(CPU) and Romo threw 3 picks, and me 2. I'm not too bothered bout the 2 I threw because I made bad calls both times, but the CPU QB's seem to be total Gunslingers haha anyway gd job man, I appreciate all the hard work you've put in

Thanks for the props bro... Truly an honor to bring joy to all the peeps that follow OS Madden slider threads...

Accolades aside, I do have the INT Slider in the lab for tuning.... CPU QB is throwing an unrealistic number of pics so it probably needs to be addressed and tamed....

Regarding the fatigue factor, if the sub-in / sub-out settings actually work, this would be an area to explore to improve the O-line sub out rate...

Thank you for the support....

KEEP PLAYIN'! KEEP POSTIN'! KEEP MADDENING!

the Gospel of Madden has spoken.

[JHedges2]

San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Francisco 49ers (USER)	0	0	7	7	14
Green Bay Packers (CPU)	0	6	0	12	18

Team Stats Comparison
	SFO	GNB
Total Offense	313	410
Rushing Yards	89	71
Passing Yards	224	339
First Downs	17	16
Punt Return Yards
Kick Return Yards
Total Yards
Turnovers	4	3
3rd Down Converstion	3-12	7-15
4th Down Conversion
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties	4-40	3-30
Posession Time	27:50	32:10

Scoring Summary
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
8:18	(GNB) M.Crosby, 51 Yd FG	0	3
0:00	(GNB) M.Crosby, 41 Yd FG	0	6
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
8:30	(SFO) C.Culliver, returned interception 72 Yds	7	6
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		SFO	GNB
11:30	(SFO) V.Davis 42 Yd pass from A.Smith	14	6
3:57	(GNB) J.Nelson 35 Yd pass from A.Rodgers	14	12
1:17	(GNB) D.Driver 60 Yd pass from A.Rodgers	14	18

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Alex Smith 17/28 244 1 4 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Frank Gore 24 75 3.1 0 Brandon Jacobs 5 1 0.2 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Vernon Davis 6 107 17.8 1 Randy Moss 5 82 16.4 0 Mario Manningham 2 15 7.5 0

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Aaron Rodgers 23/32 358 2 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD James Starks 20 55 2.7 0 Alex Green 6 12 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Greg Jennings 7 115 16.4 0 Donald Driver 4 94 23.5 1 Jordy Nelson 4 54 13.5 1

Both defenses pretty stingy all game until the 4th quarter. Rodgers put that discount doublecheck on me and lit me up in the 4th.

As you can see running was rather abysmal (once again) on both sides. I just can not seem to get the ground game going. USER run blocking awareness just seems to be in the toilet.

Total Plays: SF (59) + GB (61) = 120 (which is about 10 under NFL avg). I also ran the clock down to :14 and not :12, so I think we need to squeeze about 10 more plays out of the game (at least I do), not sure what #'s you guys are getting?

I do think that INT need to be looked at. I threw 4, but honestly all 4 of them were legit bad (hurried) throws. As for Rodgers' 3 picks, the DB awareness was remarkable (too good, I would probably say).

Going to skip Lions game (week 2), as this is only a test CCM. AT Vikings week 3, want to see if AP can run on the defense.

My 3rd down conversion % has been abysmal in every game with these sliders. It is very tough, and you def. have to work for everything, which is fantastic. Keep up the GREAT work!