Fiddy's Madden 25 Sliders

[Fiddy]

Game 4 (these adjustments below to penalties)
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Penalties
Offside: 75
False Start: 75
Holding: 75
Facemask: 62
Defensive Pass Interference: 100
Offensive Pass Interference: 100
KR/PR Interference: 50
Clipping: 62
Int Grounding: 100
Roughing The Passer: 50
Roughing The Kicker: 50
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Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns
Aug 25, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Cincinnati Bengals (1-2)	3	10	0	7	20
Cleveland Browns (1-2)	7	10	21	0	38

Team Stats Comparison
	CIN	CLE
Total Offense	207	351
Rushing Yards	17-78-1	37-110-1
Passing Yards	13-29-129-0	21-28-241-4
First Downs	11	20
Punt Return Yards	0	6
Kick Return Yards	38	169
Total Yards	245	526
Turnovers	2 (INT's)	2 (1FUM 1INT)
3rd Down Converstion	1-9	8-11
4th Down Conversion	0-2	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-1-2	5-5-0
Penalties	11-108	6-67
Posession Time	17:22	30:38

people wanted penalties, there ya go. LOL.

roughing the passer is still terrible as ever. i played a full game with it at 62, 6 of them combined. lame! im making that default 50 again. bc per usual at 50 to 54 no calls, at 55 even a ton, no thanks.

DPI/OPI, terrible per usual. these dont ever get called unless the user hits a guy by mistake. i had 4 of them on 50 over my tests games out of my season. i had one this game bc i tackled the guy to soon, had nothing to do with the sliders at 100. im defaulting these back to 50 as well.

it was nice to see facemasks, holdings, clippings, and even false starts. we will see how these go, but IMO the game (as JareBear mentioned above) felt really different. we shall see though, ill give it a few more games.

as for the game itself, it was a fun one. typical Browns and Bengals game!

i updated the penalty sliders on the 1st post and added "test" to them. as i dont really recommend them yet. but try them out and see how they play out for you.

thanks..

[Fiddy]

Game 5 (using penalties as posted on page 1)

Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns
Aug 25, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Buffalo Bills (3-1)	0	0	7	8	15
Cleveland Browns (2-2)	7	10	3	6	26

Team Stats Comparison
	BUF	CLE
Total Offense	259	325
Rushing Yards	20-105-1	34-138-1
Passing Yards	17-22-154-1	19-30-187-0
First Downs	10	20
Punt Return Yards	0	93
Kick Return Yards	15	93
Total Yards	274	511
Turnovers	0	0
3rd Down Converstion	4-10	8-14
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-0
2-Point Conversion	1-1	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1-1-0	3-1-2
Penalties	3-45	3-30
Posession Time	18:46	29:14

pretty solid game here..

just something feels off.. this game just had a few holdings and a few face masks. nothing over the top though! but something just dont feel right.

i think im going to bump up the speed threshold for one. the kick/punt returns are just too easy. i want to see if threshold at 75 or 87 feel better than 50.

[Fiddy]

Game 6

Detroit Lions at Cleveland Browns
Aug 25, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Detroit Lions (2-3)	7	7	0	7	21
Cleveland Browns (3-2)	0	17	3	8	28

Team Stats Comparison
	DET	CLE
Total Offense	343	335
Rushing Yards	15-90-1	33-139-2
Passing Yards	20-32-253-2	18-33-196-0
First Downs	18	20
Punt Return Yards	0	17
Kick Return Yards	21	137
Total Yards	364	489
Turnovers	1 INT	2 INT
3rd Down Converstion	5-9	11-15
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	1-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-3-0	4-2-1
Penalties	2-15	2-24
Posession Time	20:11	27:49

another solid game here..

a few holdings and a pass interference on me bc i tackled the guy by mistake.

im honestly not feeling the penalties away from default. as you can see, i still had holding/clipping/off sides/false start/intentional grounding etc at 75. does nothing for me or the game on a default feel.

i also played this game on speed threshold on 87. i noticed zero difference between 87 and 50. which IMO is very odd.

on to the next one..

[patriotway]

New England Patriots at Minnesota Vikings
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
New England Patriots ()	10	10	7	10	37
Minnesota Vikings ()	3	14	7	3	27

Team Stats Comparison
	NWE	MIN
Total Offense	421	411
Rushing Yards	188	125
Passing Yards	233	286
First Downs	25	16
Punt Return Yards	85	0
Kick Return Yards	160	129
Total Yards	666	540
Turnovers	1(+1)	3(-2)
3rd Down Converstion	11-16	4-12
4th Down Conversion	0-0	1-1
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4/3	2/2
Penalties	4-30	2-30
Posession Time	37:34	22:26

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		NWE	MIN
11:24	(NWE) (NE) S. Gostkowski, 28 Yd FR	3	0
6:18	(NWE) (NE) J. Ballard 4 Yd pass from T. Brady	10	0
0:28	(MIN) (MIN) B. Walsh 33 Yd FG	10	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		NWE	MIN
11:19	(NWE) (NE) S. Vereen 17 Yd pass from T. Brady	17	3
8:24	(MIN) (MIN) A. Peterson 33 Yd run	17	10
6:16	(MIN) (MIN) A. Peterson 4 Yd run	17	17
1:13	(NWE) (NE) S. Gostkowski 44 Yd FG	20	17
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		NWE	MIN
8:42	(MIN) (MIN) A. Peterson 2 Yd run	20	24
6:42	(NWE) (NE) Z. Sudfeld 4 Yd pass from T. Brady	27	24
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		NWE	MIN
14:23	(NWE) (NE) S. Gostkowski 20 Yd FG	30	24
10:42	(MIN) (MIN) B. Walsh 24 Yd FG	30	27
1:57	(NWE) (NE) S. Ridley 2 Yd run	37	27

New England Patriots PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Brady 25/32 254 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S. Ridley 26 145 5.5 1 B. Bolden 9 32 3.5 T. Brady 2 -4 -2 S. Vereen 2 9 4.5 J. Develin 1 6 6 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Amendola 8 78 9.7 S. Vereen 6 74 12.3 1 J. Ballard 3 34 11.3 1 A. Dobson 3 31 10.3 J. Develin 3 29 9.6 Z. Sudfeld 2 8 4 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK S. Vollmer 2 0 L. Mankins 2 0 R. Wendell 1 2 N. Solder 1 D. Connoly 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD B. Spikes 9 R. Ninkovich 6 3 J. Mayo 5 D. McCourty 5 D. Hightower 3 1 A. Dennard 3 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Gostkowski 3/3 4/4 13 45 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Z. Mesko 2 105 52.5 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Boyce 6 160 26.6 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Edelman 3 85 28.3

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C. Ponder 19/33 305 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A. Peterson 17 96 5.6 3 C. Ponder 6 18 3 J. Felton 1 11 11 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Simpson 5 47 9.4 A. Peterson 4 50 12.5 C. Patterson 4 107 26.7 K. Rudolph 4 62 15.5 J. Wright 1 10 10 G. Jennings 1 26 26 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK P. Loadholt 1 2 B. Fusco 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Bishop 11 E. Henderson 11 1 1 K. Williams 7 1 L. Guion 6 1 C. Greenway 6 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG B. Walsh 2/2 3/3 9 33 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J. Locke 3 128 42.6 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD C. Patterson 4 105 26.2 J. Wright 1 24 24

Just trying out a few sliders here and there to get a sense of what I like and don't like. After playing a couple games with the default sliders, I felt some things needed to change. The offenses were too effective moving the ball down the field and quarterbacks were deadly accurate. Receivers were also able to catch everything that was thrown their way. Not to mention the running game which was super effective (mine more so than the cpu's)

Initial thoughts after the first game was the offense is still very effective. Ponder did have a slow start, but really started to torch my secondary in the second half. If it wasn't for all the dropped passes from the Vikings wide receivers (9 total drops with 4 from Greg Jennings) Ponder could have had 350+ passing yards. As for the Vikings running game, Adrian Peterson had a good game.

For the most part, there wasn't much pressure for the entire game. Rod Ninkovich of the Patriots managed to get 3 sacks though. With all that said and done, I don't like to make any quick judgments after one game. I'll play a few more games to see if I find any trends and then make my final decision. As of now, it's not looking so bad.

As far as the penalties, I've grown accustomed to the penalties not working, so I don't really pay attention to them. I've rarely played a game of Madden and had 6 called penalties though, so it's heading in the right direction for me.

[warner026]

Ill play a few more games tomorrow as I have the day off. I was reading an interesting thread on the ncaa boards regarding speed threshold, and the testing found the sweet spot to be 25. It gave enough separation between wr and lb but was still enough for the linemen to get into position for blocks on runs where guards pull across to take on lbs. Ill give it a go with the sliders and see how it pans out

[Fiddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by patriotway

Just trying out a few sliders here and there to get a sense of what I like and don't like. After playing a couple games with the default sliders, I felt some things needed to change. The offenses were too effective moving the ball down the field and quarterbacks were deadly accurate. Receivers were also able to catch everything that was thrown their way. Not to mention the running game which was super effective (mine more so than the cpu's) Initial thoughts after the first game was the offense is still very effective. Ponder did have a slow start, but really started to torch my secondary in the second half. If it wasn't for all the dropped passes from the Vikings wide receivers (9 total drops with 4 from Greg Jennings) Ponder could have had 350+ passing yards. As for the Vikings running game, Adrian Peterson had a good game. For the most part, there wasn't much pressure for the entire game. Rod Ninkovich of the Patriots managed to get 3 sacks though. With all that said and done, I don't like to make any quick judgments after one game. I'll play a few more games to see if I find any trends and then make my final decision. As of now, it's not looking so bad. As far as the penalties, I've grown accustomed to the penalties not working, so I don't really pay attention to them. I've rarely played a game of Madden and had 6 called penalties though, so it's heading in the right direction for me.

good stuff man.

question, did you use the penalties on page 1? or did you leave them at default?

if you used the penalties, try out the sliders with default penalties. see how it goes for you.

when i adjusted the penalties the games to me felt very easy to move the ball. prior to that, i couldn't muster up much on offense.

Quote: Originally Posted by warner026

Ill play a few more games tomorrow as I have the day off. I was reading an interesting thread on the ncaa boards regarding speed threshold, and the testing found the sweet spot to be 25. It gave enough separation between wr and lb but was still enough for the linemen to get into position for blocks on runs where guards pull across to take on lbs. Ill give it a go with the sliders and see how it pans out

yeah, i used that method and thinking of the speed threshold for my NCAA sliders.

the thing is for me, in NCAA, the speed threshold seems to be a key slider in having the user and cpu sustain drives. meaning, lower thres at 25, meant faster scoring drives, 3, 4, 5, 6 play scoring drives. on 75 and up i started seeing 11, 12, 13, 14, and a 18 play CPU scoring drive. things of video game beauty.. LOL. ive settled on 85 for NCAA.

i tried 87 (in between level for Madden) thres, and i couldn't tell a dang difference between 50. i thought having it higher would help the long runs and kickoff/punt return TD's, it did not. is it broke or just not as effective in Madden? very odd..

[Fiddy]

i updated the 1st post..

i defaulted all the penalties back to default. any changes to them make the game play much worse IMO. way to wide open with any changes for my liking.

i also updated the CPU Pass Coverage from 62 back up to 75.

[Hunkerdown]

Have you tried turning off the auto's like heatseeeker, ball hawk, wtc?