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Hi, I've been interested, but always daunted by the prospect of, tweaking '12 to get it to be a passable football video game for me. Saw a post you made in another thread back in September so I did some searching and found this thread here.
Looks like you've done a significant amount of work with all the various sliders in the game, which is great! Part of what "daunted" me was piecing together all the information out there to get gameplay sliders, coaching schemes, and penalties to work in sync.
I have a few questions though, because it always seems like no matter what I do there are more things that need to be fixed that irk me.
1. How are sim stats? In '12, the most noticeable thing to me was that I rarely saw completion %s for QBs that exceeded 60% over the course of a season (which is low for elite QBs and even most of the average ones). Despite their low completion %s, none of them (even the worst ones) seem to throw more than 6-10 picks in an entire season. Passing yardage was always low, too. If I jacked up passing tendencies in coach settings etc., I could get closer to a realistic number of QBs with over 4k passing yards, and like 1 guy to hit 4500-4800, but with that would come too many receivers with 100+ catches and 10-12+, maybe even 15-18, TDs. QBs like Newton will have no more than 40-50 rush attempts for 200-300 yards and a TD or two, even if set to scrambling tendency, which hurts their pass numbers far more than it helps rushing. I guess there were a lot of noticeable things to me.
2. What about roster edits? Problems like defensive pressure being nonexistent from RE/ROLBs and too strong from LE/LOLBs, Super-Jumping LB pass defenders, poor tackling, etc. seem to me to be un-fixable through sliders alone. I had read that FBG ratings provide some of the best gameplay seen in years, and that's with minimal/no slider adjustments. Not sure if anyone's tried FBG on '12, though.
3. What have you found with custom gameplans? From my thread-browsing it seems like there was a fairly strong community effort on them for '11 but not so much for '12. IMO they are essential for gameplay. Without them, the CPU blitzes far too often, which is at times easily exploitable, and at others frustratingly, and unrealistically, stifling. I learned to NEVER called PA plays. With 4-vert plays in CPU playbooks, I see my defensive stats artificially boosted way too much (or conversely good QBs have their game lines turned to garbage in terms of completion %, INTs, fumbles, etc), particularly in comeback and/or 2-minute situations. Slightly off-topic, but in researching/testing gameplanning last year I found that the CPU actually starts their "2-minute" playcalling at 3 minutes left in either half. When the CPU starts to get in that 4-vert mode, it either lobs incompletion after incompletion (or pick!), or stands back behind the line of scrimmage forever waiting to get sacked.
4. How is your experience with DPP? I always felt it could get way out of hand, an example being that if a QB started 0-3 and got a three and out, he was far more likely to end the game with something horrific like a 15% completion rate and four picks, than something realistically bad, like a 40-50% completion rate with a pick or two.
Possible solution to 1. + 2.: Having different roster ratings for sim and played games.
IMO it is 100% necessary to actually play the game with pass block ratings turned down, particularly at LT, to generate realistic 4-man pass rushes (this is in conjunction with custom gameplans). Things like toning down jump ratings and hit power are also essential to see realistic pass defense and tackling. I have read, but not seen or tried, that a greater variance in accuracy/awareness ratings will make elite QBs more distinguishable from average QBs as well. The problem is these lower ratings drastically affect sim results.
With roster editing software and a few people willing to test, I think it would be possible to figure out exactly to what degree player (and coach?) ratings dictate sim stats, and wrangle them in line somewhat. I also read that ratings can actually go up to 127, I think in an NCAA thread, so it could be worth investigating to see if QB Acc ratings > 100 could generate a few 65-70% completion ratings for QBs. Maybe WR1s would need to be moved down the depth chart for 4 of the 16 games of the season to keep their receiving numbers in check. Could RBs like Sproles and QBs like RGIII and Newton be "forced" into WR and RB spots on the depth chart via roster editors to improve their receiving/rushing totals respectively?
It's a ton of $#^! to do for one person, which is why I've never done it, but with a few people testing and working on a few different aspects, I think getting a hyper-realistic game could just come down to loading/unloading a gameplay instead of sim roster once per week for the team you play against, and loading up their custom gameplan.
Let me know what you think.
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12-05-2013, 10:25 AM
