With all the Beef EA is getting you can bank that 2006 would be awesome

[PRBoomdelete]

First, let me apologize for the "partner" comment. I did misread your post.

I have played ESPN 2K4 and ESPN 2K5. Yes, ESPN 2K5 is improved, but it's still the same underlying game with some enhancements here and there. It's the same basic game, just as Madden is the same basic game with some refinements here and there with each new installment. Where's the difference?

My whole point originally was that people bitch how madden is basically the same game year in and year out with nothing more than a roster update. That's entirely untrue. I still stand by my comment that Madden has made more improvements "on the field" from last year than ESPN did. Sure, ESPN toned down their running game, added some nice animations.. but other than that it's mostly presentation enhancements.

Madden redid their playmaker (which btw was terrible in 2004). Allowed for some of the best presnap adjustments that you could ever want to make on Defense, implemented the hit stick (a very underrated feature IMO). You can argue that you can do all the same stuff on Defense w/ 2K5, but a lot of it doesn't work. Can't spy the QB, which allows for them to run like the wind play after play.

In Madden I dare somebody to try and run all game with Vick, McNabb or other speedy QB's because I got something for them. I love playing manual defense in Madden. In ESPN I'm scared to touch a button because I never know what my defender will do. Was exactly the same in 2K4.

As far as being under contract in previous years, it was true. Not every company purchases the license on a year-to-year basis. So whether or not you care to call it "under contract", regardless they were unable to give exclusive rights because more than one company still had the rights through this year.

When it's all said and done, this conversation, arguement or whatever you want to call it is pointless because next year, we as gamers won't even be able to have this conversation, which really sucks.

[jmood88]

Lmao. You can do just about everything in espn(presnap) that you can in madden. All the hitstick does is almost gurantee a fumble everytime you use it. All you have to complain about in espn is that the qb spy doesn't work? I'll take that over madden's crap any day. I have run with vick and it's still easy to do. I don't know why you would be scared if you are controlling the defense in espn.

[PRBoomdelete]

Can you disguise bump and run coverage?
Can you lineup off the ball in a cover-two, and jump the flats?
Can you change the way your D-line attacks the QB at the line of scrimmage? Not spread them out, shift them left, right,etc...

Anytime you want to try and run with Vick against me in Madden feel free to try. Sure, you'll have some successful runs, but you won't be able to do it all game.

Just the opposite, I'd love to take Vick in ESPN and run all over your *** with him. It's way easier to run with a QB in ESPN then it is in Madden.

Oh, and if you want to sit here and deny the fact that playing DB in ESPN is a crap shoot then this conversation is over as you clearly have blinders on.

[JayBee74]

Quote: Originally Posted by Metal Ninja

With all the haters out there calling EA out their motivated to make a brilliant game and that is what i expect from them being a loyal Madden player for a long time. Kepp complaining everybody...it just putting gas in the fire for EA to come out with a even better game.

That doesn't motivate them-$$$$$$ does.