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Old 09-06-2005, 03:52 PM   #17
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Re: Gamespot amazes me with their biases.

Bias? What if gamespot gave Madden 8.7. Who cares? When was the last time you made a purchase because of IGN or gamespot. We all come to OS and game impressions.

I picked up High Heat 2004, Toca Race 2, Home Run Kings, etc because of these boards.

Madden is 2006 is a good game that is held back from being a great game because of a 5 year old engine. If any game come out with a sequal with the same engine they may score the game lower.

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Old 09-06-2005, 04:03 PM   #18
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Madden is 2006 is a good game that is held back from being a great game because of a 5 year old engine. If any game come out with a sequal with the same engine they may score the game lower.

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Yup people have to understand wether you in particular care about graphics or not the reviewer biased or not still to some degree or another look at the game as a whole for ALL consumers, not just gameplay junkies and not for just graphics junkies. They got a not so super review because aspects of the game that need improving severly have yet to be. I feel though if there had been a 2k6 and thier gameplay was recycled it would have gotten a lower score as well.

Like i said before. Its like a slam dunk contest. Show me the 360 windmill dunk the first time.. you get a 50. Do it again for your 2nd dunk.. you get a 40. Do it again for your 3rd dunk, Im giving you 30. The truth is, and no matter how much other people flame me is that there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age in videogames for EA to be publising madden at 49.99 with a 5 year old engine. At the same time though there is really no excuse for 2k sports (if tehre was a 2k6 with last years gameplay) to not improve on that as well. I dont think reviewers are exactly biased in the way some people say in this thread. I think reviewers have got to the point like "okay EA this was all nice and cool 3 years ago..but come on now..even WE are getting tired of the same dog and pony show". Everyone gets tired of the same thing after a while. People would be fools to think reviewers are any different than the rest of us..they are just tired of the whole recycled thing. If Madden put equally as much effort in thier presenation, sound, graphics, animation, etc as they do thier gameplay they would have stomped NFL2k out WITHOUT having to buy the NFL license.
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:15 PM   #19
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I think Gamespot also downplays franchise play. I know in several video reviews, they say "Yeah, there's franchise play- for those of you who are into that kind of thing."

(Uh...this from a sports reviewer?)

So maybe its just that they are such casual fans. I suspected last year tha they barely even tried NFL 2K5s franchise OR Madden's for that matter. (They seemed to not notice alot of things from both games...)

I just don't know how much importance they place on franchise/season mode in any sport.
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It used to be that I suspected Gamespot had an anti-EA, Pro 2K bias, perhaps even a "slant". However, this year, I think its more than a mere suspicion.

Here's some snippets from some reviews from this year:

MLB 2K5: (Regarding the past ball problems)
..."On the upside, it seems to happen to CPU-controlled teams much more often than human-controlled teams, so you probably won't mind the flaw as much when it results in extra runs for you or if you primarily plan to play the game against another person." (8.4 score)

NHL 2K6:
"...With that said, we still noticed a few glitches here and there in the franchise mode. For one, during a couple of different seasons, the standings would just stop registering overtime losses and shoot-out losses. As much as we'd like to believe that the NHL's want of higher scoring was purely the reasoning for this, it looks more like a stat-tracking glitch that just happens at random. Another issue comes from games played during franchise. Every once in a while, weird graphical glitches rear their ugly heads, like an entire game against Vancouver where goalie Dan Cloutier never had a helmet on. We weren't ever able to reproduce any single issue more than once, but generally speaking, it seems like franchise games are a little more prone to glitches than other modes."

(and-from Alex Navarro's related blog post on the review): "As you can see by the score, it's definitely a great game. Maybe not as amazing as it's been in years past, but hey, it's the end of a console generation--everything's going to feel a little stilted. Anyway, regardless as to the slight drop in amazingness, I still enjoyed the hell out of playing it, and will likely continue to do so for the next several months." (end quote)

(Score: 8.5)

(remember that forgiving quote in Navarro's 2K blog post: "it's the end of a console generation--everything's going to feel a little stilted.")

Hmmm... I guess that is the rule only when applied to 2K's games?

And yet Madden 06 gets an 8.2 in comparison? Hey- everybody has an opinion and is entitled to it, but accross the board, Gamespot forgives 2K for just about any mis-step, while penalizing EA at the same time. NHL 2K6 has the same graphics as last year and a sound/commentary DOWNGRADE from last year, yet Gamespot goes out of its way to promote their games despite flaws and criticize EA's flaws.

(They made NO mention of any franchise problems, spy problems, or crazy AI trading in ESPN NFL 2K5 last year, yet have two sports blog entries by Navarro and Brian Ekberg calling out EA for the running back "tell" (and informing everyone how to do it, and calling it "Gross")

That's fine, and EA deserves it- but why is the same critical fire not directed towards 2K's games?

That's not to say I don't agree with the 8.2 assigned to Madden, however the loftier scores for two also-buggy 2K products (MLB 2K5, NHL 2K6) really seem to show a trend at Gamespot.

I'm not seeing much balanced coverage, that's for sure.

What do you guys think?
Kind of confused, Gamespot rated Madden 2004 9.2 and 2005 9.0. It rated NFL2k4 9.3 and 2k5 9.2.
These are marginal differences and anything 9.0 or better is listed as editor's choice. I'm willing to bet that they felt the changes from 05 to 06 just weren't worthy of a editor's choice and paying $50. One problem with these editorials is I don't think they play long enought to truly find a host of bugs, nuiances, or quirks. I use them as a guide tool and visit other gaming sites to see their opinions and I definitely come here and read opinions good and bad. These reviews are one person's opinion just like yours. Nothing more, nothing less. You decide, not them.
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