NFL Talks Exclusivity

[cjonesfan921]

It's a video game.

[TheGamingChef]

Quote: Originally Posted by cjonesfan921

It's a video game.

This is a website.

? <-- That is a question mark.

What's your point?

[coogrfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

We have this guy supposedly focusing more on current gen because it makes more money, and EA allegedly running polls that say people don't even want referrees in the game. I'd have to think that the poll must've contained two options: - Do you want referees that get in the way of plays or - No referees I know money is used to justify/excuse pretty much anything EA/NFL does but this is really stretching it. Even money can't justify this guy [seemingly] being so out of touch with the product. Then again maybe the sad truth is that money can justify every idiotic decision or foolish statement made

The only people "out of touch with the product" in this thread are the one's who ripped on the NFL guy and/or IGN without knowing what they were talking about. Instead of asking themselves "wait a second, is there a version that does have onfield refs?", they automatically assumed he was just a clueless shill.

All I'm saying is check your facts before you go nuts, guys.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by cjonesfan921

It's a video game.

Behind money this seems to be the second most used excuse for justifying pretty much anything. I agree w/you, it is only a video game - but you could add it's only a videogame that generates hundreds of millions of dollars. It's really not all that different from any other field of entertainment. He said something stupid - it doesn't need to be justified by money or it's importance to society

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

The only people "out of touch with the product" in this thread are the one's who ripped on the NFL guy and/or IGN without knowing what they were talking about. Instead of asking themselves "wait a second, is there a version that does have onfield refs?", they just automatically assumed he didn't know what he was talking about. All I'm saying is check your facts before you go nuts, guys.

I have a ton of respect for you, but it is a stretch. The refs portion is just one aspect of the overall BS tone of the interview. Even if I were to allow that he's oblivious of Madden on the next gen systems, the fact is the refs were depicted horribly in the current gen version of Madden anyway. People complain that they get in the way because Tiburon either programmed them to do so, or they can't figure out how to program them to get out of the way.

I created an appreciation thread a long time ago regarding how the refs were depicted in NFL2K4 - not NFL2K5, NFL2K4. They position themselves; headtrack/follow the play; make the appropriate hand gestures for penalties; in some ways show better directional control than the players; etc. I can't find the thread unfortunately. But it's the near complete opposite in Madden. The refs have long been out of position. They don't even follow the play. Again, I'm not trying to pick on the guy. But he said some stupid things. It doesn't need to be explained away because all he sees is dollar signs, or he should be able to say whatever because he's discussing a videogame

[wolverdawk]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheGamingChef

Regardless of what side you're on in the 2K/Madden debate, we all know that exclusitivity has been bad for the games and ultimately for us. Of course the NFL will say that they are happy with the deal for now - there are still two more years remaining. However I'm not completely sure if the deal will be renewed unless EA gets their act together.

Get there act together how? I don't think they care about the reviews.No matter how much madden sucks people still buy it and that's all they care about.

[DaveDQ]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

The only people "out of touch with the product" in this thread are the one's who ripped on the NFL guy and/or IGN without knowing what they were talking about. Instead of asking themselves "wait a second, is there a version that does have onfield refs?", they automatically assumed he was just a clueless shill. All I'm saying is check your facts before you go nuts, guys.

I'm not really ripping on these people, nor am I going to go ballistic over it. I'm just frustrated.

Let's be honest, EA banked on this deal with the NFL with the intention to nab the license for the life of the next-generation. That was their goal. By putting their game on every major gaming platform, it has given them a possibility to sell Madden like crazy. The exclsuive license just increases that possibility.

My frustration lies in the fact that this guy claims their concerns are minor (things like the ref being to close). Hmmm..did they ever question why when you try tackling a runner who is in the process of being tackled, you dive right through him? Or, did EA claim "it's just not possible to program" in hopes that they don't play the competition's game?

[Pared]

All it comes down to is $ and the image of the NFL. That's it. No discussion necessary.