Shouldnt we be happier about Madden 08......

[aholbert32]

or at least a little more optimistic?

Hear me out. I played last year's game for about a month and then sold it because of the fatigue issue. It bugged me to no end. For the first few months after the release of Madden 07, I heard multiple complaints....."No Coop", "No Gang Tackling", "No Player Editing" and all the complaints were legitimate.

Now this year EA comes straight out and says it added the following things to next gen:

Coop
Owner Mode
Alternate Jerseys
Player Editing
Realistic Fatigue
Gang Tackling
Double Team Oline Blocks
Mid Air Collisions
Defensive Hot Routes

Those probably cover 80-90% of the major complaints most people on this board had with last year's game (The only major exceptions I see are ESPN presentation and formation subs). So they fix or add alot of features but it seems that the majority of this board is underwhelmed or unimpressed. My question is WHY? Are we at the point on this board where there is so much bad blood about EA, the exclusive deal and the previous installments that even if EA fixes the things we complain about...we still are unhappy?

[djordan]

Im already happy...........

[The GIGGAS]

Aaron... I'm not unhappy that they're saying this... but therein lies the problem.

They're saying us. They haven't shown us much about any of this... and the interpretation they have about their new features might (probably is) somewhat different than what we're expecting them to be.

I don't think we're unhappy... I just think we're being cautious about the talk... because they've burned us before with the talk.

[bkfount]

people just expect a lot from their games now. I mean go look at the APF forum.

Madden on the 360 was never horrible, it was average. The only problem is that people expect more from next gen, especially after EA even made a CGI trailer hailing all the innovations they were going to do for next gen.

[Badboy49er]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

or at least a little more optimistic? Hear me out. I played last year's game for about a month and then sold it because of the fatigue issue. It bugged me to no end. For the first few months after the release of Madden 07, I heard multiple complaints....."No Coop", "No Gang Tackling", "No Player Editing" and all the complaints were legitimate. Now this year EA comes straight out and says it added the following things to next gen: Coop Owner Mode Alternate Jerseys Player Editing Realistic Fatigue Gang Tackling Double Team Oline Blocks Mid Air Collisions Defensive Hot Routes Those probably cover 80-90% of the major complaints most people on this board had with last year's game (The only major exceptions I see are ESPN presentation and formation subs). So they fix or add alot of features but it seems that the majority of this board is underwhelmed or unimpressed. My question is WHY? Are we at the point on this board where there is so much bad blood about EA, the exclusive deal and the previous installments that even if EA fixes the things we complain about...we still are unhappy?

Damn straight we should be happy, it seems EA has finally added ALL the stuff we have been asking for. AS long as it plays as well as it sounds no reason we shouldnt be happy. Yah know Aaron, people are going to hate for the sake of hatin' because its EA.

[2krules]

I'm happy ... and look at my User Name! Madden 07 was the first Madden since 2002 that I really liked, but I really expect 08 to blow me away.

[Alburt Poohole]

The single most interesting thing IMO that has not been addressed is..If true what is being said about manual control and manual playmaking then that alone makes this game great or potentially great.

I think the lack of response to that alone sais alot...Most players don't care about making their own plays because they'd much rather be concerned with unrelated matters such as signature style or computer controlled catches, tackles or anything else that has the CPU doing the work while they sit there staring mesmerized by presentation and signature style or anything else that does not require them actually using their stick in a skillful manner. (cough..2K...cough...cough..2k)

IMO Madden has always had the edge on other games based on the way it controlled and gave users an advantage if they opted to make attempts to make plays on their own. As an avid 2K Football, Basketball and baseball player the one downfall of all their games IMO is a lack of user control. I don't want to watch the game as a spectator with a controller hiding in my hand...I want to make the plays on my own and actually use my controller to make plays or screw them up myself. I'm tired of seeing the 2K animations that look pretty but are all CPU generated and driven leaving me as a spectator or slave to the game. I want, need and demand more control in making plays and creating the animations

Its just funny seeing all these people complaining about signature style, hand warmers and other non-gameplay related issues when the fact of the matter is GAMEPLAY and CONTROL are what make the game fun.

Mark my words...when this game drops you will have a TON of complaints by the people who have become accustomed to button pressing w/o skill..They will complain about dropped balls and anything else that requires skill as opposed to the easier methods of just allowing the cpu to make the play then pretending like they have skill when truth be told they hadn't done anything.

[Munkey]

im pumped about madden 08