People have played the game and interviews have been made but...

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

No doubt about it. It's the nature of some people I guess.

lol. yeah, poor EA/Tiburon receiving all this undeserved animosity. Given the focus on collisions this year, I wonder if they'll add a "ka-POW" sound to every tackle - you know, liven the gameplay up some. In any other game, my saying that would get clowned because it'd be totally out of place. However, if Gametrailers puts up some gameplay video of '08 and it has some explosion sounds occurring on tackles, people really won't know whether they added it or Tiburon did.

Despite the uniform debacle, the cutscenes, the roided up models, the horrible sidelines, lack of features, lack of FUN, etc., most people are still hoping EA pulls it together for '08. And if not '08, then '09. And if not '09, definitely '10. Yeah, poor EA/Tiburon - just getting picked on for no reason

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

lol. yeah, poor EA/Tiburon receiving all this undeserved animosity. Given the focus on collisions this year, I wonder if they'll add a "ka-POW" sound to every tackle - you know, liven the gameplay up some. In any other game, my saying that would get clowned because it'd be totally out of place. However, if Gametrailers puts up some gameplay video of '08 and it has some explosion sounds occurring on tackles, people really won't know whether they added it or Tiburon did. Despite the uniform debacle, the cutscenes, the roided up models, the horrible sidelines, lack of features, lack of FUN, etc., most people are still hoping EA pulls it together for '08. And if not '08, then '09. And if not '09, definitely '10. Yeah, poor EA/Tiburon - just getting picked on for no reason

Didn't say they were getting picked on for no reason. Said people were looking to go above and beyond to criticize them. Or people criticizing this game for last years issues. You being a prime example. But continue with your agenda.

And what was the uniform debacle again? And please as a 2k fan, you should be the last person criticizing player models. They definitely weren't a strong point to 2k. Or is that yet another 2k issue you're willing to overlook?

[Kramer5150]

Quote: Originally Posted by WVUFan

You don't have to say it, dude, it's readily apparent that you have a hatred for the series. I can post example after example of you downgrading the Madden series all-the-while boasting of the greatest of 2k5. If that isn't inherent bias, I don't know what it. Just because you say "I don't care who has the license" after your anti-Madden rant doesn't give you carte-blanche to say what you will without being called to task for it. Nope, you're absolutely entitled to say what you want about the Madden series, just as I'm just as entitled to say something in return. And, for what it's worth, anyone who constantly criticizes the game while constantly praising 2k5 IS hating the game, and IS bias against the Madden series. It's fine to be that way, but it's disengenious to say otherwise.

omg, ...you're really comical. Because I choose to point out flaws,or other gameplay mechanics that aren't up to snuff, and I have a hatred for the game?? give me a break lol. It's called wanting them TO GET BETTER.
If nobody ever pointed out these things,where do you think the series would be??

As far as me saying 2k5 was the greatest?? I think you need to read and COMPREHEND what was being said (which obviously you didn't) .

I mentioned plenty of the flaws in 2k,but obviously you didn't see that did ya? and please......point out any of my posts,as to the "downgrading Madden" and "blessing of 2k" .

[Kramer5150]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

You say you could care less who is making the game and have no loyalty, your posts say otherwise.

Mm yea ok,what ever you say. I guess the criticizing of Madden is no longer allowed, if it's not favorable then don't post the negatives. I got it now

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by CowherPower

Mm yea ok,what ever you say. I guess the criticizing of Madden is no longer allowed, if it's not favorable then don't post the negatives. I got it now

Hardly. It's funny you tell WVU fan to read and comprehend, yet fail to do so yourself.

[Kramer5150]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Hardly. It's funny you tell WVU fan to read and comprehend, yet fail to do so yourself.

Trust me...my reading comprehension is fine. Maybe it's yours,seeing as how everything that I've said is being spun into "I hate this series"

[WVUFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by CowherPower

omg, ...you're really comical. Because I choose to point out flaws,or other gameplay mechanics that aren't up to snuff, and I have a hatred for the game?? give me a break lol. It's called wanting them TO GET BETTER. If nobody ever pointed out these things,where do you think the series would be??

Same as it is now. The improvements generally made to the game is to placate the average Madden player, of which you and I are not.

Quote:

As far as me saying 2k5 was the greatest?? I think you need to read and COMPREHEND what was being said (which obviously you didn't)

I understand exactly what you said. Again, saying "I want them to get better" doesn't mean you do not have a bias toward the 2k football series.

There's nothing wrong with liking the 2k series better. Just because I don't care for the game doesn't mean I don't recognize it's quality. The difference is that I'm heavily slanted to Madden, and I have no problem saying I do. You heavily slide to the 2k football games, but still sit there and try to claim an unbias outlook. It's simply not true.

For the great majority of 2k fan, it doesn't matter what Madden does, it won't be enough.

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I mentioned plenty of the flaws in 2k,but obviously you didn't see that did ya? and please......point out any of my posts,as to the "downgrading Madden" and "blessing of 2k" .

Doesn't take much ...

Quote: Originally Posted by CowherPower

I could go on..but you seem to think 2k was given a pass. Did you ever seem to think it could've been because 2k was ATTEMPTING to advance the gameplay and try new things? IMO EA gets all the backlash because alot of folks feel that they haven't improved gameplay enough...so why shouldn't they be scrutinized?

In other words, EA's game flaws are because they're lazy, while 2k's flaws was because they were "attempting to advance the gameplay and try new things". There is no way to construe that comment as anything but bias.

I'm glad 2k is putting out a football game. I many not buy it, but any competition usually creates innovation, regardless of the genre. That's never a bad thing.

[Kramer5150]

Quote: Originally Posted by WVUFan

Same as it is now. The improvements generally made to the game is to placate the average Madden player, of which you and I are not. I understand exactly what you said. Again, saying "I want them to get better" doesn't mean you do not have a bias toward the 2k football series. There's nothing wrong with liking the 2k series better. Just because I don't care for the game doesn't mean I don't recognize it's quality. The difference is that I'm heavily slanted to Madden, and I have no problem saying I do. You heavily slide to the 2k football games, but still sit there and try to claim an unbias outlook. It's simply not true. For the great majority of 2k fan, it doesn't matter what Madden does, it won't be enough. Doesn't take much ... In other words, EA's game flaws are because they're lazy, while 2k's flaws was because they were "attempting to advance the gameplay and try new things". There is no way to construe that comment as anything but bias. I'm glad 2k is putting out a football game. I many not buy it, but any competition usually creates innovation, regardless of the genre. That's never a bad thing.

Where in the hell did I ever call EA lazy?? care to point that one out?
What's with "doesn't take much"? in other words you have nothing,so give it up already.
The point is.....you can't stand having somebody point out faults in Madden,without thinking their 2k fans.

It's if you want to categorize everything I've said,and make it into something it's not.