Weapons.....Lets talk

[HotShot232]

Lets talk about weapons Icons.

For instance do you think a SHUTDOWN(Ball & Chain) corner is really SHUTDOWN?

Weapons
Stiff Arm Ball Carrier - Best stiff arms in the business
Counter - Stripping the ball is best against these guys

Speed - Fastest in the league
counter - No counter to speed

Spectacular Catch - Amazing catchs
Counter - Big hitters & Shutdown Corner - Vulnerable to big hits

Smart Players - Read plays
Counter - Smart players

Shutdown Corner - Shut down receivers
counter - Quick receivers best bet to beat these guys

Crushing run Blockers - Pancake defenders
counter - Power move D-lineman have the strength to battle these guys

Quick Receiver - Best at shaking defenders and beating coverage
counter - Shutdown corners can hang step for step with these guys

Press corners - Excellent at bump & Run
counter - Quick receivers can beat these guys deep

Power move D-lineman - Use their brute strength to bull rush into the backfield
counter - Crushing run blockers have enough strength to battle these guys

Power back - These guys run guys over
counter - Big hitters & Brick wall defenders - Use big hitter to take their legs out

Possession Receiver - Rarely drop balls & Excellent catching balls in traffic
counter - Big hitters & Shutdown corners - Big hitters can jar ball loose

Pass blocker - Best pass blockers in the business, buys more time for QB
counter - Finesse D-lineman can beat these guys on the corner

Hands - Excellent catching
counter - Spotlight WR

Finesse D-lineman - Excellent pass rushers
counter - Pass blockers can help slow these guys down

Elusive Back - Escape tackles, can shake most defenders
counter - Vulnerable to Big hitters & Brick wall defenders help them not get away

Cannon Arm QB - Great zip on balls and throw the farthest
counter - Any Weapon on Defense

Brick wall Defender - These guys make tackles and rarely do guys get by them
counter - Power backs & Elusive backs have more of a chance to get away

Accurate QB - Most accurate QBs around, rarely throws ball off target
counter - Force them on the run, much less accurate throwing on run

Big hitter - Big hitter cause fumbles, Getting hit by these guys bring pain
counter - Cover ball up when getting hit by these guys

Big kicker - Has power for long kicks
counter - None

Accurate kicker - Most accurate kickers, rarely miss
counter - None

[Answer348]

I'd be interested in learning about players who have multiple weapons. Are you only able to utilize the one they are on any given play?

For example, sometimes LT might appear as a stiff arm back, and sometimes an elusive back.

[HotShot232]

Ok couple of things I wanted to debate with you all.

Do you find a Quick Receiver is better at shaking off coverage than a standard WR?????

Also Do you find a Shut Down Corner is anymore lock down than a standard DB. I have watched replay after replay and on DEFAULT madden sliders BOTH type of corners will cut EXACTLY, mirror image of the WR. I think sliders can be the only way to help this. I am interested trying Def- Awarenss to 0 and if that makes a difference how fast the two react.

[Hassan Darkside]

What is weapon cam?

[DLaren]

Quote: Originally Posted by HotShot232

Ok couple of things I wanted to debate with you all. Do you find a Quick Receiver is better at shaking off coverage than a standard WR?????

Not that I've noticed. I ran 10-yard dig routes and out-routes in practice for about 30min minutes and I didn't see any difference between Bernard Berrian (quick WR) and Ronald Curry (no weapon).

The only advantage Berrian had was his speed, not his quickness.

Quote: Originally Posted by HotShot232

Also Do you find a Shut Down Corner is anymore lock down than a standard DB. I have watched replay after replay and on DEFAULT madden sliders BOTH type of corners will cut EXACTLY, mirror image of the WR. I think sliders can be the only way to help this. I am interested trying Def- Awarenss to 0 and if that makes a difference how fast the two react.

You can pretty much ignore the weapons icon, any DB with good awareness and speed will be a solid corner whether he's a "weapon" or not...


My personal favorite weapons combination is the 'Cannon Arm' QB paired with a 'Deep Threat/Speed" WR... J****ssel to B.Berrian is money on the long-ball for me about twice a game (assuming my O-line can hold-up long enough )

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by DLaren

Not that I've noticed. I ran 10-yard dig routes and out-routes in practice for about 30min minutes and I didn't see any difference between Bernard Berrian (quick WR) and Ronald Curry (no weapon). The only advantage Berrian had was his speed, not his quickness. You can pretty much ignore the weapons icon, any DB with good awareness and speed will be a solid corner whether he's a "weapon" or not... My personal favorite weapons combination is the 'Cannon Arm' QB paired with a 'Deep Threat/Speed" WR... J****ssel to B.Berrian is money on the long-ball for me about twice a game (assuming my O-line can hold-up long enough )

What determines whether or not they get "shutdown" status? Which rating. All I know is that when Rasheen Mathis is on someone in man, they rarely catch the ball. Antoine Winfield? He gets beat occasionaly.

[DrUrsus]

This 360 game is so screwed up, I bet you could replace all your DB's with LBs and they would cover them.

[DLaren]

Quote: Originally Posted by EsaQue

What determines whether or not they get "shutdown" status? Which rating. All I know is that when Rasheen Mathis is on someone in man, they rarely catch the ball. Antoine Winfield? He gets beat occasionaly.

I don't know what attribute ratings are needed for a player to earn the "shutdown corner" rating; but I think it's safe to assume that it's related to AWR, AGI, ACC, and MCV (man coverage).


I'm wondering if others will agree that cornerbacks playing opposite to the "shutdown corner" seem to get picked on by the CPU even though that corner may be covering his man just as effectively as the "shutdown corner"...


Nnamdi Asomugha is my "shutdown corner" (92 AWR) and across from him I have Fabian Washington (80 AWR). When I watch the replays Fabian covers his WR just as good as Nnamdi covers his, yet the CPU picks on Fabian all game and avoids Nnamdi at all costs; I can only assume that's because Fabian doesn't have the "shutdown corner" weapon.

Which would lead me to believe that the "shutdown corner" doesn't necessarily cover his man better, it's just that the CPU is intimidated by a player with "shutdown corner" status, and therefore would rather not risk throwing in that direction...

...I'd bet having two shutdown corners would be heaven